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re: Moving the BR Zoo

Posted on 3/30/17 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
10997 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 1:44 pm to
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Moving the BR Zoo
1. Need more studies.


Yup.. Still PLENTY of taxpayer money to be handed out to political doners in the form of "Studies".

Just use the Baton Rouge Loop as exhibit "A", Many people have gotten wealthy on studying that MFer.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 1:44 pm to
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The vet school has the equipment to operate on large animals when they are sick or injured


And?

If they build a new zoo by burbank or wherever, it will have its own hospital area.

The zoo uses the mri machine huh. How many animals have they run mris on?

The year I was there we brought 1 animal to the vet school and it was dead. All other procedures were done on sight, which was a very small amount.

The idea that the zoo needs to be by the vet school for its equipment and on hands training for the students is at the very bottom of the totem pole. If a procedure needs to be done on an animal, ok yea I could see the students watching the vet but that's all I could see happening.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59052 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 1:47 pm to
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I actually think it is overall in good shape, and on par with comparable Zoo's of its size.


Unless it's improved immensely since my last trip there about ten years ago, I don't agree with this at all. It was pathetic.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26920 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 1:48 pm to
You're thinking about what HAS been done in your experience.

Think of what COULD be done. Just because the shitty BR zoo hasn't taken advantage of the vet school doesn't mean they shouldn't.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 1:53 pm to
If you can take care of the animals on site, why would you bring them elsewhere?

Now yea if the connection(zoo/vet) was exposure to local schools and groups and more along those lines, yea that relationship would be great.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36162 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 1:54 pm to
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It's far from the interstate, and it's far from its customer base


The zoo is 10 minutes from I-110.
It is far from its customer base, but it is a destination type place. People make plans and go if they want to go. They go there if there is something to see, if there's nothing worth seeing they don't go.

And the study as I remember it had three plans; the current site, the Fairgrounds site and the site at Nicholson and Bluebonnet. They study concluded that renovating the old zoo would cost about the same as a new zoo. At the time I said no way.

Look at the alternate sites. One flooded and is on the edge of the parish. The other site is a long way from the interstate and is almost outside of the parish.

I think the people doing the study cooked the books. I think a new zoo would cost way more than renovations would cost unless like the elephant pen everything is out dated and they want to reinvent the wheel.

I can see why BREC wants everything new. It's not their money they are spending, its ours.

LINK TO FRIENDS OF THE ZOO STUDY
LINK

Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
23181 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:04 pm to
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I think the people doing the study cooked the books. I think a new zoo would cost way more than renovations would cost unless like the elephant pen everything is out dated and they want to reinvent the wheel.



I remember reading an article that stated the new zoo would be ready much sooner than a full renovation of the old zoo and that was a big element in costs being closer together than you would think.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26920 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:09 pm to
To be honest, I think the zoo should just shut down. Outside of high-end zoos in major cities, zoos are sad creations.

Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:12 pm to
I like the conservation aspect of zoos. Imo, they are a necessity
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67198 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:15 pm to
That would make sense. Renovating an existing zoo means working when the zoo is not in operation or working around the zoo so as not to interrupt the experience. That takes a lot more time and OT than blowing and going at a green field site. It's like the difference between building a new road and widening an existing one while keeping it open to traffic.
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
8245 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:33 pm to
There is a ton or racial tension in BR. The zoo isn't moving. End of story.
Posted by Jim Smith
Member since May 2016
2915 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:45 pm to
The crazy thing is that citizens in NBR don't even fricking go to the zoo. They don't even care that it's there. And nobody stops at the sketchiest gas station in Baton Rouge (on the right hand side before turning onto the road leading to the zoo) so it's not like they will lose business. It's just a power thing for Gravy.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101930 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

There is a ton or racial tension in BR. The zoo isn't moving.


It's fricking pathetic that these even have anything to do with each other.

The zoo should be able to move if they think it will be mutually beneficial to themselves and their patrons without worrying about being declared racist.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18681 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:49 pm to
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Unless it's improved immensely since my last trip there about ten years ago, I don't agree with this at all


Yea, it's changed quite a bit. My first visit there was in 2005. When I moved back in 2015, the zoo looked completely different.
Posted by oreeg
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
5282 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:51 pm to
When I went a couple weeks ago they asked for my zip code. I proudly gave it to them without hesitation because I knew exactly why they're asking everyone.
Posted by Dave lsu 89
B.R,/ Houston
Member since Jun 2016
3879 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:52 pm to
im originally from baker and i support Zachary or Central?
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25777 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

The zoo should be able to move if they think it will be mutually beneficial to themselves and their patrons without worrying about being declared racist.


They should, but they won't, and the main reason is b/c it would be racist to take it out of NBR, and put it next to the white college, or next to the white flight of Prairieville and the Santa Maria/LA Country Club whites.

Did you not hear our idiot mayor say she thinks the tram they are proposing between downtown and LSU, should also go all the way to Southern?

The Zoo should be by LSU, close to the river. The Casino could have a boat bring people there. It would be an attraction for football games, as well as baseball games, and you can get some free and/or cheap labor from LSU vet students.
What does it matter if it's far from the interstate? Audubon zoo isnt' near the interstate and that mfer is packed every weekend. That's another problem. People from Baton Rouge would rather drive an hour and a half to the Audubon zoo as opposed to 20 minutes to the baton rouge zoo, and they pay more than double to get in as well. If you're not going to make a zoo that will make your local residents stop going to New Orleans as often, then what's the point of having one at all?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36162 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 3:01 pm to
I agree, but define mutually beneficial because if BREC has 110 million dollars to spend I think We need to sink it into more important projects than a zoo.

And that's one of the issues I have with our form of govt.; we have CATS, BREC, COA, Library Board, and others on their own and there is no way to prioritize their activities so that tax dollars impact out biggest problems.

For instance, no one can take BREC money to build a mental hospital even though that's needed more than a zoo.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101930 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 3:02 pm to
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Did you not hear our idiot mayor say she thinks the tram they are proposing between downtown and LSU, should also go all the way to Southern?


I didn't hear that... the only reason it should go all the way to Southern is for it to connect to the airport. Having the airport/downtown/LSU all connected wouldn't be a bad thing.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53113 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 3:23 pm to
does anybody even go to southern besides the law school?
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