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re: More DIY help needed!!
Posted on 5/20/14 at 4:25 pm to Jibbajabba
Posted on 5/20/14 at 4:25 pm to Jibbajabba
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/pressure washer
Do NOT pressure wash the deck and then apply any kind of deckover like product. Pressure washing is not good for the deck if you're going to cover it with a deckover like product. It will cause the stuff to fail.
I'm researching this very same topic right now as I just bought a new house and the deck, while structurally sound, looks like shite.
From what I have gathered on the Internet and diy Reddit, the Olympic brand deck restore stuff is supposedly much better than the Rustoleum brand one.
I also would rather build an entire deck than sand the one I have, so I'm probably going with the Olympic stuff.
Their site says to use Olympic deck cleaner and hose it off. Then sand only where it's peeling. I can handle that as it's not peeling in many places.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 4:28 pm to REB BEER
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nice table LOL
I lol'ed in real life also.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 4:29 pm to SirSaintly
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Pressure washing is not good for the deck if you're going to cover it with a deckover like product. It will cause the stuff to fail
explain this a little bit more please.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 4:57 pm to Jibbajabba
Wouldn't be worth your time to sand the lattice or the spindles. Replace those and sand everything else and re-stain. IMO don't use a dark semi-transparent stain like you currently have. It will always look dirty. Lighter the stain, the better the look IMO. good luck
Posted on 5/20/14 at 4:59 pm to junkfunky
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replace with trex deck
DO NOT DO THAT!!!!
I did this about 4 years ago, and now they look like shite. They ended up with mold spots on them, and I have to pressure wash it a couple times a year. This stuff is supposed to be maintenance free but it isn't. Last year I used a composite deck cleaner that I brushed on with a push broom, then pressure washed it, and that seemed to work longer before having to do it again.
Had I known, I would have just put new wood down instead. I paid more for the long run of easy maintenance, but I'm convinced the wood would still look great today. I tore down the old crappy 2x4 railings, added new deck posts, and put up new railings and did a 7 year stain/seal treatment on them, and they still look great. Should have just done the whole thing in new wood. If we end up staying at this house for a while I'm going to do that one day.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 5:03 pm to Jibbajabba
I'm in a similar position, but with an old unstained deck. Trying to decide between the restore type products vs TWP 100 stain.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 5:08 pm to Ric Flair
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I'm in a similar position, but with an old unstained deck. Trying to decide between the restore type products vs TWP 100 stain.
i actually have a couple of friends looking to do the exact same thing as us. There must be a couple of folks on here that have successfully undertaken this project that can give us some sound advice.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 5:12 pm to Jibbajabba
Your concern is your little girl and splitters. If you are at all handy, take up the old deck boards and replace them. Use deck screws with the star drive, cost more but worth it. I did this at my old house the deck was 20ft. x 20 ft. You can do it in increments so you can still use the deck. This way you know you got it right instead of trial and error with the other options. Once you get the deck done you can proceed to the lattice and rail if your satisfied.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:51 pm to unclejhim
i am probably going to just replace the deck one section at a time, starting with the deck and the rail caps. Before I make up my mind though, I would like to hear any other opinions on deckover type products. The reviews I'm seeing are terrible to mediocre. Are people not using it right or what?
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:55 pm to Jibbajabba
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Can i use some sort of paint thinner/pressure washer to remove paint, then deckover to skip the sanding process?
You'll do more damage to the wood than just trying to get rid of the stain/paint that is on it now.
My suggestions would be the same as before, rent a floor sander with about a 50 grit on it to level it out some and then about a 150 grit to finish the sanding. If you want to really give it another look, redo the hand rails while you are at it instead of trying to sand them, you could probably do the handrails yourself under 1k for all including the rental of the sander.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:22 pm to Jibbajabba
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I would almost prefer to tear it down than sand that whole damn thing.
The deck is easy, you can rent a floor sander for that. The rest would be tedious and time consuming.
I'm not a big fan of decks, unless the house is elevated.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:23 pm to Warfarer
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My suggestions would be the same as before, rent a floor sander with about a 50 grit on it to level it out some and then about a 150 grit to finish the sanding. If you want to really give it another look, redo the hand rails while you are at it instead of trying to sand them, you could probably do the handrails yourself under 1k for all including the rental of the sander.
THis, big buffer or floor sander for the boards.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:32 pm to Jibbajabba
Buy a good belt sander and rent Javier from Home Depot for the weekend
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:33 pm to tiger94gop
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big buffer or floor sander for the boards.
Use a Drum Sander, not a buffer or square floor sander. Those things only work for sanding between polyurethane coats IME.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:36 pm to Zappas Stache
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Use a Drum Sander, not a buffer or square floor sander. Those things only work for sanding between polyurethane coats IME.
Drum sanders take skill or you will put waves in your deck too. A walk behind orbital floor sander will do fine for a deck if he starts with a rough enough grit to take the top off and level it up before trying to put a finish on it with a finer grit.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:40 pm to Jibbajabba
Last year i tried using Olympic deck cleaner. It's worthless, pressure wash the deck then sand it. Then put the finish you want on it.
Chemicals only go so far. You will be dissapointed if you wash and stain.
Pressure wash and go from there.
Chemicals only go so far. You will be dissapointed if you wash and stain.
Pressure wash and go from there.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:42 pm to Zappas Stache
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Use a Drum Sander,
No...that's not something that the average Joe should use.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:47 pm to ByteMe
I am in the process of taking up my deck boards. Anyone know the cheapest place for 16' boards on the Northshore.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:51 pm to Jibbajabba
Hit it with the pressure washer
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