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re: man dies after NYPD cop puts him in chokehold (for selling untaxed cigarettes)

Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:48 am to
Posted by The Third Leg
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:48 am to
quote:

Th article says the man did not have any cigarettes on him or in his vehicle. The guy in the video said the police where there after a fight the dead guy tried to break up. If he was really selling untaxed cigarettes, wouldn't there be SOME evidence of untaxed cigarettes?

No good deed goes unpunished.
Posted by LesMiles BFF
Lafayette
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:49 am to
quote:

Th article says the man did not have any cigarettes on him or in his vehicle.

The guy in the video said the police where there after a fight the dead guy tried to break up.

If he was really selling untaxed cigarettes, wouldn't there be SOME evidence of untaxed cigarettes?


No. The article said his family claimed he didn't have any cigarettes on him.

quote:

Garner’s family said he didn't have any cigarettes on him or in his car at the time of his death.


That's why I said they better find some untaxed cigarettes to enter into evidence.
Posted by sbr2
Member since Apr 2011
15016 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:56 am to
Wow. They obviously had some sort of orders to bring that guy in, but now they are rightly responsible for the guy dying in their custody
Posted by RedRifle
Austin/NO
Member since Dec 2013
8328 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:56 am to
Sad thing is that he and his family seem relatively "normal". His kids aren't tatted up thug looking types and he seemed to be around. That sucks. I DO hope his family exacts a pretty large judgement from the NYPD. Whether he would have died in a few years or not is not relevant to this case.





Posted by The Third Leg
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:00 am to
Six kids, two grand kids. Thug, no defense. The worlds most dangerous street gang is only going to get worse.

This is what happens when the servile masses sit back and allow the police to terrorize poor areas to make them safer.
Posted by LesMiles BFF
Lafayette
Member since May 2014
5101 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:01 am to
quote:

Six kids, two grand kids. Thug, no defense. The worlds most dangerous street gang is only going to get worse.

This is what happens when the servile masses sit back and allow the police to terrorize poor areas to make them safer.


Two Words:

Lose weight.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:04 am to
quote:

The guy in the video said the police where there after a fight the dead guy tried to break up.



That why you are supposed to film the fight while screaming WURLSTAR and holding your phone vertically instead of doing some dumb shite like breaking it up.
Posted by The Third Leg
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Member since May 2014
10053 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:04 am to
I'm one-fifty-two today. I'm good.
Posted by LesMiles BFF
Lafayette
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5101 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:05 am to
Talkin bout the fat criminal resisting arrest.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:05 am to
quote:

Whether he would have died in a few years or not is not relevant to this case.



Actually that is relevant in all wrongful death lawsuits.
Posted by The Third Leg
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:05 am to
Clearly.
Posted by dualed
Member since Sep 2010
4702 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:06 am to
152?? jesus how tall are you
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10053 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:10 am to
Five-eleven

BMI is bangin'.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
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67591 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:13 am to
never seen a pic where the guy blocks out an elephant
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28228 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:24 am to
NYPD is OOC and has been for years.

"Stop and Frisk" is now "stop and Choke".

The people that want SAF in New Orleans have no clue what they are asking for.
Posted by The Third Leg
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Member since May 2014
10053 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:26 am to
quote:

NYPD is OOC and has been for years. "Stop and Frisk" is now "stop and Choke". The people that want SAF in New Orleans have no clue what they are asking for.

America don't do no cautionary tales unless Morgan Freeman narrates them.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28228 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:29 am to
Or James Earl Jones.

CNN's ratings went to shite when they quit using his VoiceOver.

Coincidence? I think not.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:31 am to
quote:

When the guy says put your hand behind your back you do it. Ever see anyone talk their way out of being cuffed?


that is definitely the best response, not to resist.

But at the same time, death is not an appropriate end point for getting upset at being arrested. Its just not. the cop clearly didn't apply appropriate level of force.

frick him. he should be fired and have his pension taken away. instead, he will get a paid vacation and then back on the job.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40825 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:34 am to
I like how some of yall are basically saying that since the guy was out of shape and going to die from it eventually, that is was OK for the cops to choke him out and kill him.
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
9480 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:35 am to
quote:

Six kids, two grand kids. Thug, no defense. The worlds most dangerous street gang is only going to get worse. This is what happens when the servile masses sit back and allow the police to terrorize poor areas to make them safer.


Biggest act of terror in man's history.
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