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re: man dies after NYPD cop puts him in chokehold (for selling untaxed cigarettes)
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:27 am to Rust Cohle
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:27 am to Rust Cohle
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That one armed choke, might have been uncomfortable, but wouldn't have caused him to pass out. When You're a 50 yo, asthmatic, 400 plus pound man, a light breeze could take you out for a multitude of reasons. It looks like there was no unnecessary force to me. Guy was resisting till he hit the ground. That's how you apprehend someone resisting. It's not the officers fault the guy was unhealthy.
So him saying I can't breathe I can't breathe was because of a light breeze?
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:28 am to DelU249
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How can they let that Gay wad walk around with any authority sporting tats everywhere in short sleeves and baggy cargo shorts?
This
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:29 am to Teddy Ruxpin
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Arresting a man for selling untaxed cigarettes is where the ridiculousness begins
This.
But we need more government! More taxes!
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:30 am to LaFlyer
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So him saying I can't breathe I can't breathe was because of a light breeze?
You ever watch Cops?
90% of motherfrickers say the exact same thing when it's total BS.
Cops aren't doctors.
Never.Resist.Arrest.
Let the lawyers fight it out in criminal and hopefully civil court. Get paid.
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 10:30 am
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:31 am to Camp Randall
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He was probably gonna die in the next 3 or 4 years because of his condition
so you just watched a guy get murdered by police and you're justifying it by saying he was PROBABLY gonna die soon anyway? why the frick is everyone so desensitized to this? you don't come back after death bro. this shite is a huge deal.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:32 am to dualed
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so you just watched a guy get murdered by police and you're justifying it by saying he was PROBABLY gonna die soon anyway? why the frick is everyone so desensitized to this? you don't come back after death bro. this shite is a huge deal.
Exactly. This is disgusting. Cops should be charge with murder or at least manslaughter.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:33 am to RedRifle
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man dies after NYPD cop puts him in chokehold (for selling untaxed cigarettes)
The war on drugs that the government can't profit on continues.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:34 am to DosManos
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Exactly. This is disgusting. Cops should be charge with murder or at least manslaughter.
Dude, I have a low regard for cops as well, but at least I'm reasonable.
When the guy says put your hand behind your back you do it. Ever see anyone talk their way out of being cuffed?
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:35 am to jacks40
I dont usually support the cops but this one looks ok to me. dude resisted so they had to take him down. I expected them to keep him choked out for way too long but it didnt seem excessive to me, the cop let off almost as soon as he hit the ground. dude was just in bad shape and his attempts to intimidate the cops with his size did him in.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:36 am to LesMiles BFF
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Ever see anyone talk their way out of being cuffed?
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:37 am to LesMiles BFF
The issue is that there never should have been a law on the books allowing for an arrest for this offense. It adds an unnecessary violent element to what should be no more than a citation and fine.
Hell, this guy is probably less dangerous than someone speeding, and we don't allow cops to pull people out and arrest them for minor infractions.
So in a way, I don't blame the cops, I blame the laws that prioritized arrest for this infraction
Hell, this guy is probably less dangerous than someone speeding, and we don't allow cops to pull people out and arrest them for minor infractions.
So in a way, I don't blame the cops, I blame the laws that prioritized arrest for this infraction
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 10:38 am
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:37 am to LesMiles BFF
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When the guy says put your hand behind your back you do it. Ever see anyone talk their way out of being cuffed?
No I know. My post was based in emotion not logic. But still- cops are so aggressive these days. Like they had to choke the poor guy.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:38 am to Teddy Ruxpin
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The issue is that there never should have been a law on the books allowing for an arrest for this offense. It adds an unnecessary violent element to what should be no more than a citation and fine.
Well said.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:41 am to RedRifle
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Within moments Garner, a married father of six children with two grandchildren, stopped struggling and appeared to be unconscious as police called paramedics to the scene. An angry crowd gathered, some recording with smartphones.
In ten years, I hope we read a story about a Staten island Judge that tells one of these six kids that he needed a Father to beat his arse.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:42 am to Teddy Ruxpin
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The issue is that there never should have been a law on the books allowing for an arrest for this offense. It adds an unnecessary violent element to what should be no more than a citation and fine.
Hell, this guy is probably less dangerous than someone speeding, and we don't allow cops to pull people out and arrest them for minor infractions.
So in a way, I don't blame the cops, I blame the laws that prioritized arrest for this infraction
All I know is that the cops better produce some cigarette boxes without stamp taxes or someone gonna git paid.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:42 am to diat150
I was expecting the cop to actually choke the guy for an extended period of time. I didnt see that. I don't know what caused this guy to die but it wasn't from being choked
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:42 am to The Third Leg
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In ten years, I hope we read a story about a Staten island Judge that tells one of these six kids that he needed a Father to beat his arse.
Just a question in general:
Is it better to have a criminal father or no father at all?
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:45 am to dualed
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so you just watched a guy get murdered by police
Embellish much...
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:45 am to LesMiles BFF
Th article says the man did not have any cigarettes on him or in his vehicle.
The guy in the video said the police where there after a fight the dead guy tried to break up.
If he was really selling untaxed cigarettes, wouldn't there be SOME evidence of untaxed cigarettes?
The guy in the video said the police where there after a fight the dead guy tried to break up.
If he was really selling untaxed cigarettes, wouldn't there be SOME evidence of untaxed cigarettes?
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:46 am to LesMiles BFF
I love the commentary:
"This guy right here is forcibly...trying to lock somebody up for breaking up a fight."
How do you detain someone resisting arrest with no force?
Advice to amateur news commentators: STFU and let the pictures speak for you. You generally sound like an idiot.
"This guy right here is forcibly...trying to lock somebody up for breaking up a fight."
How do you detain someone resisting arrest with no force?
Advice to amateur news commentators: STFU and let the pictures speak for you. You generally sound like an idiot.
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