re: LSU Law Center chancellor is resigning...

Outside of LSU, SU, Loyola, TU, and MC, other schools offer a civil law program?

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Outside of LSU, SU, Loyola, TU, and MC, other schools offer a civil law program?

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No, but to the best of my knowledge, none of those other schools require students to take civil law courses. That's what I was getting at. It makes LSU different than Tulane, loyala, southern, and MC.

It certainly would be a big "f-you," but Weiss has enough money to just walk away and not have to put up with anymore bullshite.

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It makes LSU different than Tulane, loyala, southern, and M

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Not sure about Southern, but Tulane and Loyola both make the civil law courses optional. That's what Weiss wanted (and the survey they sent to the students confirmed that the students wanted it too). It would increase the appeal of the law school to out of state students. Looking at Alabama, Iowa, Arizona State, etc. law schools, there is no reason to think LSU Law couldn't crack the top 50 consistently, especially given the international law and energy law fields the school focuses on.

As a state school that supplies Louisiana with most of its attorney's anyway, it wouldn't have made that much of a difference on how many kids went the civilian route. The only difference might be that someone skips Mat-regimes to take something more interesting their 3L year.

I guess the worry among civilian faculty was that they would be less of a priority and more expendable. Who would have imagined these professors--bastions of academia, progressive thought, and social awareness--would be so adverse to change once their paychecks were on the line.

I don't know that LSU would start pulling kids from all over the country if it did away with the mandatory civilian course load. In fact, one of the reasons why LSUs bar passage rating is generally better than Tulane is because of the mandatory civilian course load. Tulane has students that go to Tulane with high hopes of working in DC, NY, etc. and when those dreams don't pan out, they decide to take the LA bar. LSU doesn't have that problem. I'm not saying that this is a good reason to keep it, but I also don't know that LSU would crack the top 50 without it.

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I'm not saying that this is a good reason to keep it, but I also don't know that LSU would crack the top 50 without it.

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I agree. But the issue seems to be that many out of state students are weary of the fact that they wont' be able to practice anywhere else if the go to LSU--this isn't true at all, but its definitely the perception.

The second issue is that because of the 15 hour basket requirement, you're limited in how you can schedule. If someone wants to focus on a few areas of law, they have to wedge that in around the mandatory civilian basket.

Also, if you want to practice elsewhere, some courses overlap, so you essentially take them twice. Property is mandatory 1st year. Its useless to someone looking to go elsewhere, because they'll have to take common law property.

I see the concern. I guess it didn't really affect me because I was always intending on taking the LA bar exam. However, if LSU continues to place top students in Houston, then I agree, they need to do away with the basket.

LSU has always placed top students in Houston and a few in Dallas as well. It's never been an issue.

I passed the bar in a common law state with no problem and only took the civil law classes. Barbri teaches you what you need to know with common law property, wills, trusts and the contracts subjects you don't learn due to time at LSU. Everything else, agency, family law is pretty much the same. It's not a big deal.

But the civilians want people to continue to believe it is. It keeps the fence up.

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Barbri

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I haven't been very impressed with Barbri thus far, but as long as I get good news in October it will be worth every cent (even though most firms cover bar prep costs nowadays anyway).