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re: Low Fat Diet Is Allegedly Wrong According to Report
Posted on 5/23/16 at 4:29 pm to lsu777
Posted on 5/23/16 at 4:29 pm to lsu777
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I hate this stupid program
Have you tried it in conjunction with a low carb diet? Didn't think so.
And what do you mean. Skinny fat?
Also, if you read the book the point is not for it to be the only exercise, but the only weight training. Since you only lift weights for 15 minutes per week, then you have more time to a) let your muscles heal, b) perform other exercises, e.g. running, swimming basketball, c) spend time with your family, d) argue about shite on the internet, e) profit.
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Posted on 5/23/16 at 4:30 pm to guedeaux
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It is body by science, but not 3 reps. And for some anecdotal evidence, I used to do weights twice per week and cardio 3 to 4 times per week
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and I am stronger and leaner now with working out only once or twice per week for about 15 minutes each session.
because you are in a calorie deficit. or wait does the body by science program have you eating your magic food also?
Posted on 5/23/16 at 4:31 pm to lsu777
never understood 2 things:
1. calorie content of bacon. is that if you eat it raw?
i mean when i'm done i have a stick of beef jerky..how many calories are honestly left in it?
2. nuts. sometimes i swallow the occasional peanut whole and it comes right out..perfectly intact. so how in the frick do those calories get counted? nuts seems to go through your system mainly unscathed.
1. calorie content of bacon. is that if you eat it raw?
i mean when i'm done i have a stick of beef jerky..how many calories are honestly left in it? 2. nuts. sometimes i swallow the occasional peanut whole and it comes right out..perfectly intact. so how in the frick do those calories get counted? nuts seems to go through your system mainly unscathed.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 4:32 pm to guedeaux
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And what do you mean. Skinny fat?
i think this refers to people who drop weight at all costs (including muscle mass) so they end up with nothing left of their body to burn calories and are destined to gain the weight back over time.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 4:33 pm to CAD703X
calories in vs calories out doesnt mean your healthy. My roommate in college would eat mcdonalds or some other fast food daily and he had a six pack but there is no way he was actually healthy. We're only mid 30s now and he still eats like that and is thin but surely heart issues will arise wont they?
Posted on 5/23/16 at 4:34 pm to lsu777
I really don't understand what your response meant. so now you agree that body by science works?
This post was edited on 5/23/16 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 5/23/16 at 4:35 pm to guedeaux
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Or a scientist with a PhD in a biological science,
you do know there are many of us, right?
some even have more than 1.
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but whatevs.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 4:36 pm to guedeaux
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Also, if you read the book the point is not for it to be the only exercise, but the only weight training. Since you only lift weights for 15 minutes per week, then you have more time to a) let your muscles heal, b) perform other exercises, e.g. running, swimming basketball, c) spend time with your family, d) argue about shite on the internet, e) profit.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 4:36 pm to guedeaux
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Have you tried it in conjunction with a low carb diet? Didn't think so.
I have not tried the program nor would I, I use the basic barbell and dumbbell lifts in a progressive manner. I don't do super slow eccentric training on machines.
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And what do you mean. Skinny fat?
by skinny fat, i mean somebody that the general public would consider skinny yet they have no muscle tone, no resemblance of abs and very little muscle overall while usually having a small pouch.
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Also, if you read the book the point is not for it to be the only exercise, but the only weight training. Since you only lift weights for 15 minutes per week, then you have more time to a) let your muscles heal, b) perform other exercises, e.g. running, swimming basketball, c) spend time with your family, d) argue about shite on the internet, e) profit.
I have read the book. and I have tried super slow in the past and IMO its complete and utter bullshite. IMO the only use for eccentrics is on forced reps or rest pause training in the style similar to doggcrapp training. and I am sure the program is fine if all you are trying to do is maintain and gain a little strength, but it really has no place in a program designed to build muscle. No going to get into the rest of your points.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 4:38 pm to guedeaux
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I really don't understand what your response meant. so now you agree that body by science works?
depends on what you mean by works? is it good to build muscle? hell no. is it the best way to get stronger nope. so imo its a waste of time. but whatevs
Posted on 5/23/16 at 4:40 pm to dabigfella
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calories in vs calories out doesnt mean your healthy. My roommate in college would eat mcdonalds or some other fast food daily and he had a six pack but there is no way he was actually healthy. We're only mid 30s now and he still eats like that and is thin but surely heart issues will arise wont they?
moderation.
i dont think mcdonalds is going to cause any particular long term issues for your friend unless he never picks up an apple or a sautes some green beans or has a salad.
i would be more concerned by the 'sugar crash' impact of repeated assaults by overly sugared processed foods than the quality of the beef in a mcdonalds burger.
read about how diabetes gets started..its a real eye-opener.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 4:40 pm to dabigfella
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calories in vs calories out doesnt mean your healthy. My roommate in college would eat mcdonalds or some other fast food daily and he had a six pack but there is no way he was actually healthy. We're only mid 30s now and he still eats like that and is thin but surely heart issues will arise wont they?
most heart health problems are genetics. ans some people are able to process food better than others.
in general the less processed something is than the better it is for you. I.E. grass fed beef and butter is better for you than regular beef and butter. fresh veggies out your garden are better than canned veggies. etc etc
Posted on 5/23/16 at 4:44 pm to CAD703X
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never understood 2 things:
1. calorie content of bacon. is that if you eat it raw? i mean when i'm done i have a stick of beef jerky..how many calories are honestly left in it?
2. nuts. sometimes i swallow the occasional peanut whole and it comes right out..perfectly intact. so how in the frick do those calories get counted? nuts seems to go through your system mainly unscathed.
you are way way overthinking things man.
A) measure all foods raw
b) it isnt an exact science, you will have to play around with your calorie intake to really find what your maintenance is.
just make smart choices, keep your protein high and log everything. if you are gaining weight and want to lose, eat less. if its the opposite, eat more. if you are losing and want to lose, do nothing.
its not that damn hard. and skinny fat refers to those that would be considered skinny by normal standards yet have very little muscle, are not ripped in any way and usually have a small gut.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 4:47 pm to mouton
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I think anyone posting nutritional advice should be required to post a picture.
go through my history; its there.
macro count (Oprah bread every day diet
) 380g - carbs
225g - protein
110g - fat
started out at in feb at 195lbs; now at 207lbs
frick the no carb diet
frick the no fat diet
frick being lazy
Strength train then add a METCON to the end of your workout
This post was edited on 5/23/16 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 5/23/16 at 4:49 pm to ksayetiger
Protein is vastly over estimated and over rated.
Somebody already mentioned bodybuilders.
Carbs are NOT the devil. Or old Asians would be some fat sickly bastards.
This can be pushed all the way to vegan diets, but I won't. Meat is delicious, but meat is a luxury and NOT a necessity. If you eat with that in mind you will eat healthier.
Add to that portion control. Servings of meat in this country have been out of control for many years.
Somebody already mentioned bodybuilders.
Carbs are NOT the devil. Or old Asians would be some fat sickly bastards.
This can be pushed all the way to vegan diets, but I won't. Meat is delicious, but meat is a luxury and NOT a necessity. If you eat with that in mind you will eat healthier.
Add to that portion control. Servings of meat in this country have been out of control for many years.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 4:52 pm to CAD703X
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1. calorie content of bacon. is that if you eat it raw? i mean when i'm done i have a stick of beef jerky..how many calories are honestly left in it?
If you read the nutrition label, the calories are for "1 pan fried slice"
So most of the fat is rendered out.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 4:54 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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Protein is vastly over estimated and over rated
see thats funny, I could have sworn we were made to eat meat....oh wait we were.
i love how yall bang on bodybuilders. Natty BBers are usually some of the healthiest around and eat shite tons of protein. Go eat 500g a day while drinking a gallon and half of water while doing the wendler 531 boring but big challenge and tell me if its over rated.
if you aren't looking to make changes in your physique and you just want to maintain, yea its overrated. for those of us who want to build muscle and actually look good, its not.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 4:56 pm to lsu777
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People who says calories in vs calories out don't work are lying to themselves about what and how much they are eating.
Calories in, calories out is basically pseudoscience at this point. On the most basic level, with nothing in context, it makes sense.The problem is that not all calories sources are the same and the way the body metabolizes food sources changes depending on the source. The body simply cannot efficiently process high levels of sugar. That's why low fat, high sugar foods lead to obesity regardless of caloric content and why America got ridiculously fat since the low fat guidelines from the FDA in the 1970s
Posted on 5/23/16 at 4:59 pm to Antonio Moss
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That's why low fat, high sugar foods lead to obesity regardless of caloric content
This is just wrong and logically stupid
If you're at a calorie deficit, you won't gain weight.
How many times does the Twinkie diet need to be brought up?
This post was edited on 5/23/16 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 5/23/16 at 5:02 pm to Breesy9
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This is just wrong
Go on professor....
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