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re: Low Fat Diet Is Allegedly Wrong According to Report
Posted on 5/23/16 at 5:03 pm to ThinePreparedAni
Posted on 5/23/16 at 5:03 pm to ThinePreparedAni
So you think that a low calorie, high carb diet will lead to obesity? How does one gain weight at a calorie deficit?
K
The low carb fan boy in every single thread who thinks he's an expert
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ThinePreparedAni
The low carb fan boy in every single thread who thinks he's an expert
This post was edited on 5/23/16 at 5:05 pm
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Posted on 5/23/16 at 5:10 pm to Breesy9
Dude, can you read??
Read my inital post in the thread (I emphasize metabolic flexibility with carbs being an important role). Calories tell the thermodynamic accounting tale (see my analogy on wealth and spending in the thread)
My last post discussed the the limitation of the twinkie diet philosophy (at the expense of micronutrients and long term health). I did concede that this could be a short term win (weight maintenance), but the journal I posted outlines the potential long term consequences
Read my inital post in the thread (I emphasize metabolic flexibility with carbs being an important role). Calories tell the thermodynamic accounting tale (see my analogy on wealth and spending in the thread)
My last post discussed the the limitation of the twinkie diet philosophy (at the expense of micronutrients and long term health). I did concede that this could be a short term win (weight maintenance), but the journal I posted outlines the potential long term consequences
This post was edited on 5/23/16 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 5/23/16 at 5:12 pm to ThinePreparedAni
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Dude, can you read??
Can you? Was I responding to your post?
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I did concede that this could be a short term win (weight maintenance), but the journal I posted outlines the potential long term consequences
So the post I responded to was wrong...k
I never said there wouldn't be long term issues. This statement:
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That's why low fat, high sugar foods lead to obesity regardless of caloric content
is absolutely retarded.
How does one put on weight in the absence of energy?
Go on professor....
It's cool that low carb works for you, but your obsession with it is pathetic
This post was edited on 5/23/16 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 5/23/16 at 5:13 pm to AU_251
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Stay on the outer ring of the grocery store, aisles have nothing but shite.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 5:17 pm to Breesy9
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Can you? Was I responding to your post?
Uh, yeah??
Look, I do not argue that calories account for the process. The issue I have is in causality...
Do you understand the distinction?
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To reiterate, I am not for a moment suggesting that energy balance or thermodynamics are being violated. I’m saying they do not tell you WHY our bodies choose to accumulate fat instead of burn it. Think about the examples I give in the video interview in response to the question, why we get fat? The growing child is consuming more energy than he is expending (which allows him to grow), but this is not the CAUSE of his growth, it’s the RESULT of his growth. The pregnant woman isn’t gaining fat during the pregnancy BECAUSE she is eating more energy than she’s expending. She’s creating a positive energy balance BECAUSE her hormones are driving her to create this energy balance so she can support the fetus.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 5:19 pm to ThinePreparedAni
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Uh, yeah??
Didn't realize you were Antonio Moss
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Look, I do not argue that calories account for the process.
Dude, can you read?
Can you please point out where I argued against your statement?
I responded to this quote from Antonio Moss:
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That's why low fat, high sugar foods lead to obesity regardless of caloric content
So I'll ask again, professor:
How does one put on weight in the absence of energy?
Posted on 5/23/16 at 5:21 pm to Breesy9
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It's cool that low carb works for you, but your obsession with it is pathetic
Its not professor...
Once again if you read my initial post in this thread the recommendations call for plenty of carbs in people who have earned them
Low carb is recommended for others as a short term bridge (until more insulin sensitive)
Posted on 5/23/16 at 5:22 pm to ThinePreparedAni
Still waiting for you to answer the simple question I've asked over and over again....
How does one put on weight in the absence of energy?
Thanks Antonio. Never said I had an issue with that
How does one put on weight in the absence of energy?
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Once again if you read my initial post in this thread the recommendations call for plenty of carbs in people who have earned them
Thanks Antonio. Never said I had an issue with that
This post was edited on 5/23/16 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 5/23/16 at 5:31 pm to Breesy9
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How does one put on weight in the absence of energy?
Calories account for the process not the cause
Hormonal impact of sugar via insulin has a disproportionate impact on glucose partitioning into fat
Look, you can believe what you want to believe. I challenge you to go on a long term calories restricted diet of strictly simples sugar and starches (which is what most of the American populace attempts to do when dieting over the last few decades). Report back on your "progress"
I would be happy to take care of you for your metabolic derangements that evolve..
This post was edited on 5/23/16 at 5:32 pm
Posted on 5/23/16 at 5:34 pm to ThinePreparedAni
So you can't answer the question
Because you know that you were wrong.
That statement is scientifically, mathematically, and logically dumb.
Because you know that you were wrong.
That statement is scientifically, mathematically, and logically dumb.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 5:34 pm to Breesy9
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This is just wrong and logically stupid
If you're at a calorie deficit, you won't gain weight.
How many times does the Twinkie diet need to be brought up?
Again, when you remove all context, the idea of a calorie deficit works. But what happens when you eat 2000 calories of Twinkies for a month?
You fricking die of malnutrition.
So, yes, you make not gain actual pounds but your body will shut down.
Eating high sugar diets (especially without associated fiber) makes you fat because 1) it's high in calories and 2) it really gives you very little in the way of nutrition which means that you have to consume even more calories from other sources. The body isn't going to let you starve it.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 5:35 pm to Antonio Moss
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But what happens when you eat 2000 calories of Twinkies for a month?
You fricking die of malnutrition.
It's been done for longer than a month
If you're at a calorie deficit, you won't be putting on weight
So it isn't regardless of calories. Not debatable
This post was edited on 5/23/16 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 5/23/16 at 5:37 pm to Breesy9
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So you can't answer the question
Because you know that you were wrong.
That statement is scientifically, mathematically, and logically dumb.
The premise of the question as you pose it makes it unanswerable
You have at all figured out. You are guilty of the same bias that you accuse me of.
You believe what you want. I will be happy to profit from you in the future...
Posted on 5/23/16 at 5:39 pm to Breesy9
Seriously.
The guy that did the junk food/Twinkie diet for ten weeks was also shoveling multivitamins down his throat, eating cans of vegetables every day, and drinking a protein shake every morning.
The guy that did the junk food/Twinkie diet for ten weeks was also shoveling multivitamins down his throat, eating cans of vegetables every day, and drinking a protein shake every morning.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 5:40 pm to ThinePreparedAni
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The premise of the question as you pose it makes it unanswerable
Interesting, because I'm looking at several journals that were able to come to pretty clear conclusions
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You are guilty of the same bias that you accuse me of.
I love low carb diets
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You believe what you want. I will be happy to profit from you in the future...
You seem to think I'm arguing in favor for a high sugar diet for some reason....
This post was edited on 5/23/16 at 6:01 pm
Posted on 5/23/16 at 5:41 pm to Antonio Moss
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The guy that did the junk food/Twinkie diet for ten weeks was also shoveling multivitamins down his throat, eating cans of vegetables every day, and drinking a protein shake every morning.
So it isn't regardless of calories then?
Thanks!
Posted on 5/23/16 at 5:45 pm to lsu777
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see thats funny, I could have sworn we were made to eat meat....oh wait we were.
At best we are primates with intelligence enough to be herbivores.
I've never seen another carnivore grill. African lions do not have Big Green Eggs.
Teeth are wrong and jaws are wrong to kill and consume an animal on the spot. Not to mention we cannot process the amount of protein. It just goes to waste.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 5:45 pm to Antonio Moss
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Eating high sugar diets (especially without associated fiber) makes you fat because 1) it's high in calories a
So, by your own words, it isn't regardless of calories
Posted on 5/23/16 at 6:16 pm to SirSaintly
Fat means nothing because whatever doesn't get burned will get stored or excreted anyway. Removing simple carbs from your diet and eating lean can help you lose a lot of weight really fast and feel a lot better about yourself.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 6:17 pm to AU_251
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Stay on the outer ring of the grocery store, aisles have nothing but shite.
But where are we going to get the spices needed to flavor all of the meat and veggies you get on the periphery of the store?
You think the evil grocery shelf stockers do this on purpose to trip up us.
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