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Posted on 9/13/23 at 1:18 pm to Topwater Trout
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I would like to know the ratio of domestic and imported. I won't buy imported bc we get our shrimp at the dock off the boats.
Though I can’t give the exact figure today without looking it up in the National Marine Fisheries Service statistical database, I can tell you that since the 70’s imported shrimp has supplied 80% + of USA domestic shrimp consumption - domestic shrimp production has never been ever to come close to supplying domestic demand for 5 decades, there is simply not enough shrimp in the GOM, south Atlantic and Pacific to do that.
I’m not implying that shrimp imports don’t affect domestic shrimp prices, as indeed they do, but very sizable amounts of seafood imports into USA have been a “thing” for decades in order to meet the consumption demands by the USA population.
I don’t buy imported shrimp either, we are very lucky in south LA to buy fresh domestic shrimp off the docks - very few places places in USA where this can be done.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 1:21 pm to CrawDude
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I’m not implying that shrimp imports don’t affect domestic shrimp prices
I am sure they do. Without them our shrimpers would probably be selling all our shrimp to the midwest making a lot more money
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we are very lucky in south LA to buy fresh domestic shrimp off the docks
i agree. we are spoiled.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 1:22 pm to John88
Same people will buy everything at Walmart from China to save 2 percent.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 1:24 pm to glassman
Pier 3 the new seafood place next to Spahrs that just opened has fresh Royal Reds and all types of fresh seafood
He’s also the owner of Spahrs as well.
He’s also the owner of Spahrs as well.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 1:36 pm to SixthAndBarone
quote:When a man’s buying 3-4 lbs it’s hard not to drop at least ONE lb of Chinese crawfish. They’ll never notice.
Also, think about frozen crawfish prices. $16 for Louisiana and $8 for import. Keep that in mind.
This post was edited on 9/13/23 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 9/13/23 at 1:40 pm to John88
The market price the “shrimp house “ uses to set the buying price is different from the retail price the fisherman uses to sell to you at the dock. The shrimp houses are buying your 9-12 count at 2$ a pound. The shrimper is selling most of his catch to him at that and then peddles the rest at 5$-6$ a pound to individual retail customers. He can’t sell enough retail to make up for the extremely low price the shrimp house uses to set the market. The market price is low bc if the low cost of the imported shrimp. The local shrimp houses are competing against them, so they have to set their whole sale prices accordingly. What guys like us buy at the dock to stock our freezers is lest than 5% of the fisherman’s catch.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 1:47 pm to dyslexiateechur
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We go down to Westwego shrimp lot to get our seafood.
Funny you should mention that. Because they’re not on the “up and up” about where the shrimp comes from.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 2:28 pm to slinger1317
The government probably made it cheaper and more profitable to import. So the government is responsible for fixing it.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 2:33 pm to slinger1317
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Small government, except when it effects them
Yea but the reason imports of any product are cheaper than domestic is due to big government regulations on domestic industry. If you want a competitive free market we have to deregulate a whole lot. If we fail to deregulate, the only option is protectionism or let American industries collapse
Posted on 9/13/23 at 2:37 pm to jpggpj
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selling them cheap, restaurants are buying them cheap but the end user (customer) is not seeing the result in the stores or restaurants. The shrimpers are getting screwed on the front end and the customers are getting screwed on the back end, meanwhile the guys in the middle are benefitting.
Catfish industry is the same way. Restaurants and Sysco/US foods, etc never drop prices once they reach a new high even if the price on raw product drops eventually, so you never get the benefit of increased sales to offload inventory when prices drop
Posted on 9/13/23 at 2:40 pm to slinger1317
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Small government, except when it effects them
Youre right, lets go ahead and take labels off of everything. Including medication.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 2:42 pm to John88
You guys need to read the theory of comparative advantage.
The guy who can produce it the cheapest always wins.
The guy who can produce it the cheapest always wins.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 2:44 pm to John88
quote:Last year was last year. How does this compare to prices BEFORE the Covid-19 pandemic?
Shrimpers say at the start of last season the biggest shrimp were fetching $4 a pound. Now the local guys say for the same size shrimp they're only getting $.80 a pound.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 2:47 pm to sumtimeitbeslikedat
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Meanwhile, you pay $20 for 4 fried shrimp at the restaurant. Seems like they are the ones making all the profit nowadays.
Prob, but they had to pay that guy $20 to cook those 4 shrimp, plus had to pay entergy, atmos, spectrum. Prob had some lawsuits from customers. They have refuse and rent to pay, prob some cam charges too. On top of that you got your insurance and taxes.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 2:49 pm to deltaland
quote:you want a steady market or the alternative baw?
Catfish industry is the same way. Restaurants and Sysco/US foods, etc never drop prices once they reach a new high even if the price on raw product drops eventually, so you never get the benefit of increased sales to offload inventory when prices drop
Posted on 9/13/23 at 3:04 pm to nvasil1
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It does. I don't know what that guy is saying, unless he wants it to be more obvious for people who don't check.
I get gulf shrimp at the grocery store 5 mins from my house, and the package has a decent-sized American flag on the back with "Product of USA".
gotcha. I thought maybe I was going crazy I agree with topwater, i've seen some packges with a local sounding name but harvested from Philippines or somewhere overseaas.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 3:06 pm to John88
If commercial fisherman hadn't spent every season before this one poor-mouthing anyone who would listen, they might be able to get more traction
Posted on 9/13/23 at 3:10 pm to MarsellusWallace
quote:In an economy where standard grocery bill for staple foods has increased + 30% in the last 18 months, people will buy the cheapest they can get no matter where it's coming from.
You guys need to read the theory of comparative advantage.
The guy who can produce it the cheapest always wins.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 3:12 pm to Topwater Trout
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have seen frozen chinese crawfish in stores with a Louisiana type name... a lot of people don't look at the small print
The store knows. Does Rouses stock foreign shrimp?
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