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re: Louisiana shrimpers call for cap on foreign imports

Posted on 9/13/23 at 1:17 pm to
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/13/23 at 1:17 pm to
I have seen frozen chinese crawfish in stores with a Louisiana type name... a lot of people don't look at the small print
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5295 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 1:18 pm to
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I would like to know the ratio of domestic and imported. I won't buy imported bc we get our shrimp at the dock off the boats.

Though I can’t give the exact figure today without looking it up in the National Marine Fisheries Service statistical database, I can tell you that since the 70’s imported shrimp has supplied 80% + of USA domestic shrimp consumption - domestic shrimp production has never been ever to come close to supplying domestic demand for 5 decades, there is simply not enough shrimp in the GOM, south Atlantic and Pacific to do that.

I’m not implying that shrimp imports don’t affect domestic shrimp prices, as indeed they do, but very sizable amounts of seafood imports into USA have been a “thing” for decades in order to meet the consumption demands by the USA population.

I don’t buy imported shrimp either, we are very lucky in south LA to buy fresh domestic shrimp off the docks - very few places places in USA where this can be done.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67601 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 1:21 pm to
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I’m not implying that shrimp imports don’t affect domestic shrimp prices


I am sure they do. Without them our shrimpers would probably be selling all our shrimp to the midwest making a lot more money

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we are very lucky in south LA to buy fresh domestic shrimp off the docks


i agree. we are spoiled.
Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
3782 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 1:22 pm to
Same people will buy everything at Walmart from China to save 2 percent.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 1:24 pm to
Pier 3 the new seafood place next to Spahrs that just opened has fresh Royal Reds and all types of fresh seafood

He’s also the owner of Spahrs as well.
Posted by Quatrepot
Member since Jun 2023
4114 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 1:36 pm to
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Also, think about frozen crawfish prices. $16 for Louisiana and $8 for import. Keep that in mind.
When a man’s buying 3-4 lbs it’s hard not to drop at least ONE lb of Chinese crawfish. They’ll never notice.
This post was edited on 9/13/23 at 1:37 pm
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
5838 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 1:40 pm to
The market price the “shrimp house “ uses to set the buying price is different from the retail price the fisherman uses to sell to you at the dock. The shrimp houses are buying your 9-12 count at 2$ a pound. The shrimper is selling most of his catch to him at that and then peddles the rest at 5$-6$ a pound to individual retail customers. He can’t sell enough retail to make up for the extremely low price the shrimp house uses to set the market. The market price is low bc if the low cost of the imported shrimp. The local shrimp houses are competing against them, so they have to set their whole sale prices accordingly. What guys like us buy at the dock to stock our freezers is lest than 5% of the fisherman’s catch.
Posted by tigerman03
Metairie
Member since Jul 2008
3749 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 1:47 pm to
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We go down to Westwego shrimp lot to get our seafood.


Funny you should mention that. Because they’re not on the “up and up” about where the shrimp comes from.
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
2469 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 2:28 pm to
The government probably made it cheaper and more profitable to import. So the government is responsible for fixing it.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91168 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 2:33 pm to
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Small government, except when it effects them


Yea but the reason imports of any product are cheaper than domestic is due to big government regulations on domestic industry. If you want a competitive free market we have to deregulate a whole lot. If we fail to deregulate, the only option is protectionism or let American industries collapse
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91168 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 2:37 pm to
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selling them cheap, restaurants are buying them cheap but the end user (customer) is not seeing the result in the stores or restaurants. The shrimpers are getting screwed on the front end and the customers are getting screwed on the back end, meanwhile the guys in the middle are benefitting.


Catfish industry is the same way. Restaurants and Sysco/US foods, etc never drop prices once they reach a new high even if the price on raw product drops eventually, so you never get the benefit of increased sales to offload inventory when prices drop
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69226 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 2:40 pm to
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Small government, except when it effects them


Youre right, lets go ahead and take labels off of everything. Including medication.

Posted by MarsellusWallace
504
Member since Apr 2022
386 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 2:42 pm to
You guys need to read the theory of comparative advantage.

The guy who can produce it the cheapest always wins.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45925 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 2:44 pm to
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Shrimpers say at the start of last season the biggest shrimp were fetching $4 a pound. Now the local guys say for the same size shrimp they're only getting $.80 a pound.
Last year was last year. How does this compare to prices BEFORE the Covid-19 pandemic?
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69226 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 2:47 pm to
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Meanwhile, you pay $20 for 4 fried shrimp at the restaurant. Seems like they are the ones making all the profit nowadays.


Prob, but they had to pay that guy $20 to cook those 4 shrimp, plus had to pay entergy, atmos, spectrum. Prob had some lawsuits from customers. They have refuse and rent to pay, prob some cam charges too. On top of that you got your insurance and taxes.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
14187 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 2:49 pm to
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Catfish industry is the same way. Restaurants and Sysco/US foods, etc never drop prices once they reach a new high even if the price on raw product drops eventually, so you never get the benefit of increased sales to offload inventory when prices drop
you want a steady market or the alternative baw?
Posted by nerd guy
Grapevine
Member since Dec 2008
12803 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 3:04 pm to
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It does. I don't know what that guy is saying, unless he wants it to be more obvious for people who don't check.

I get gulf shrimp at the grocery store 5 mins from my house, and the package has a decent-sized American flag on the back with "Product of USA".



gotcha. I thought maybe I was going crazy I agree with topwater, i've seen some packges with a local sounding name but harvested from Philippines or somewhere overseaas.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35566 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 3:06 pm to
If commercial fisherman hadn't spent every season before this one poor-mouthing anyone who would listen, they might be able to get more traction
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30306 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 3:10 pm to
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You guys need to read the theory of comparative advantage.

The guy who can produce it the cheapest always wins.


In an economy where standard grocery bill for staple foods has increased + 30% in the last 18 months, people will buy the cheapest they can get no matter where it's coming from.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
66127 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 3:12 pm to
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have seen frozen chinese crawfish in stores with a Louisiana type name... a lot of people don't look at the small print



The store knows. Does Rouses stock foreign shrimp?
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