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re: John Oliver goes after anti-vaxxers in his most recent episode (video)

Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:35 am to
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65617 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:35 am to
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The lefty "current year" cuck is going after the lefty anti vax cucks


You're an absolute idiot if you think anti-vax is a Left thing. I can throw a rock around here and hit a pompous, conservative anti-vax woman with a bigger mouth than their bank account.
Posted by Emiliooo
Member since Jun 2013
5148 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:08 am to
This is a good visualization. Personally, you can't take a stance that if you don't want to vaccinate your kid, then so be it. It's a societal problem in which you're harming others for your stupidity. Meaning to say, even if your child is vaccinated, if there are others children that are not vaccinated, then the vaccinated child is still at risk.

This post was edited on 6/26/17 at 11:14 am
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68446 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:09 am to
6 downvoters are morons that think vaccines cause autism
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20396 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:13 am to
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This is a good visualization. Personally, you can't take a stance that if you don't want to vaccinate your kid, then so be it. It's a societal problem in which you're harming others for your stupidity. Meaning to say, even if you're child is vaccinated, if there are others children are not vaccinated, then the vaccinated child is still at risk


Exactly. Not just that, but not all vaccines are at birth or the first year. My daughter for example got chicken pox before she was due for her first or final round of chicken pox. There are many vaccines that children are not done until they are 2-3+ years old. So if you choose to not vaccinate your kid, you are putting every kid under 3 at risk.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68446 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:15 am to
its not vaccines

autism is a neurological/nervous system disorder similar to tourette's syndrome, its been proven that vaccines are not the cause
This post was edited on 6/26/17 at 12:40 pm
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56255 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:17 am to
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The rise in autism has more to do with increased knowledge then anything else
bullshite. I didn't know any kids like the ones I've seen, when I was growing up.

Now, 4 women I know have autistic kids. I'm not laying blame on anything in particular (though one of them said modern vaccination is the only thing she did differently in the case of her autistic son) but something is causing an increase.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68446 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:19 am to
twenty years ago approximately 1:100-150 children, depending on where you get information from was diagnosed with autism.

now its 1:68

Part of this is because of how Pediatricians have labeled autism. it is now considered a spectrum in the DSM 5, also Asberger's syndrome is now considered autism. so this does play a part.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39553 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:41 am to
Over diagnosed or the stats are wrong.

At the rates they are purporting it seems like I should be surrounded everywhere I go.
This post was edited on 6/26/17 at 11:42 am
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68446 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:44 am to
over diagnosis does happen at some clinics especially if the provider can get reimbursed a lot for it.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56255 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:46 am to
Again, I did not know kids like that when I was growing up. Now, I know 4, and that's just in my own circle of friends.

Global warming has a lot of "research" to back it up as well.

In the last couple of decades, Pharma has been given the green light to basically throw out whatever poorly developed crap it wants. It really wouldn't surprise me if this was the side effect of a poorly developed drug.
This post was edited on 6/26/17 at 11:48 am
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51243 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:51 am to
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Again, I did not know kids like that when I was growing up.


You probably did but just didn't know it.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
6858 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:52 am to
Or maybe a fiscally conservative, socially moderate republican who likes to get his information from as many sources as possible because he doesn't trust anyone in the media.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28026 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:54 am to
Blame that dumb bimbo Jenny MCcarthy.

This BS was a Cali, local dealio, till that quack got her to spew her nonsense around America and on TV.

She gave this asinine movement credibility, and it took off from there.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56255 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:54 am to
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You probably did but just didn't know it.
Having spent time with my friends' kids, no, I really didn't.
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
4370 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:59 am to
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Now, 4 women I know have autistic kids. I'm not laying blame on anything in particular (though one of them said modern vaccination is the only thing she did differently in the case of her autistic son) but something is causing an increase.



Correlation does not imply causation. By the anti-vax logic, ice cream causes drowning b/c drowning incidents increase as ice cream sales go up.

There is no evidence vaccines cause autism. The a-hole doctor that started this shitstorm has lost is license and his 'study' has been discredited time and time again.

There is more evidence that antidepressants have a link to autism than vaccines. Even the link to antidepressants is pretty weak b/c the studies don't show whether it's the antidepressants OR the factors that contribute to the mom's depression.

Posted by Quinn225
Member since May 2017
408 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:59 am to
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Not one. I don't know many people that do, either. Is it pretty common?



You don't know one doctor or nurse?
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
18853 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 12:03 pm to
I don't know about you guys, but for my medical opinions, I always go straight to snaggle-toothed, half-a-sissy British comics.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
18853 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 12:05 pm to
and the all-consuming desire to identify EVERYTHING as a freaking medical condition. Whatever happened to "goofy"? When I was a kid, we recognized that some folks were just goofy.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32702 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 12:05 pm to
So you're against vaccinations? Not sure why you would bother with that post otherwise.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20396 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 12:06 pm to
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Part of this is because of how Pediatricians have labeled autism. it is now considered a spectrum in the DSM 5, also Asberger's syndrome is now considered autism. so this does play a part.


Its much more than just this, a lot of parents now are pushing for their "slow" kid to be diagnosed now so that they stay in the special programs that are state funded.

I have a good friend with a daughter that is "on the spectrum" and she seems slightly autistic in her development, social skills, and mannerisms. But we were just talking and after being in the special program while she was 4, her teachers said that she no longer needed it. Well guess what, her mom doesn't want that and wants her kept in it so she is fighting it.

If you just met this girl casually or she was in your kids daycare, you'd really have no idea. Once you hang out with her a couple of times as friends do with kids, you can kinda tell she is slightly behind. But that is it. It is kids like her that are now diagnosed early on that are changing these stats completely. Now that's a great thing for the kids to help them, but I guarantee you we all knew someone like her back in the day.

Frankly, I attribute plenty of her issues being "slow" to her parents. They are generally very good parents, but her mom is a neat freak and spends more time keeping her life and house in order than helping with the kids development. I've met countless parents like this, that want to blame their kid being behind on something "medical" rather than just developing slow naturally for one of many reasons.
This post was edited on 6/26/17 at 12:09 pm
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