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Posted on 7/1/15 at 1:27 pm to Topwater Trout
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Do you think highland rd will ever be 4 lanes? It would help traffic but it will NEVER happen.
It can't happen physically I don't think. Its narrow as it is on the shoulders and people have property lines right there along the entire thing.
And its an old levee.
I think there are much better and more cost effective ways to help BR traffic than that.
Build a fricking loop, extend and add connector streets. They need a bypass from Perkins to I-10 and I-12 without lights on it in several areas.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 1:29 pm to tigerinthebueche
Here is an analogy. Kind of abstract but I believe it fits.
California is in the midst of a drought. First thought is, do they need more water. They might need more water but if you look a little deeper, you would see that the way the state of California uses water as a whole could use some help. Farming practices, bottling water to ship to other states, and planting lush landscapes in a desert are not the best decisions for state of California and its water needs.
Similarly, Baton Rouge has a traffic problem. Could more roads help it, yes. But we also have a problem in that its citizens are under the impression that it makes since to drive half the width of the city daily to live life. I am not saying they should not live there life in whatever way they deem fit but whether you believe it or not Baton Rouges citizens own choices cause traffic problems with in the city just as the choice to give farmers X% of water rights in the state of California to grow macadamia nuts and other BS results in water shortages during a drought.
California is in the midst of a drought. First thought is, do they need more water. They might need more water but if you look a little deeper, you would see that the way the state of California uses water as a whole could use some help. Farming practices, bottling water to ship to other states, and planting lush landscapes in a desert are not the best decisions for state of California and its water needs.
Similarly, Baton Rouge has a traffic problem. Could more roads help it, yes. But we also have a problem in that its citizens are under the impression that it makes since to drive half the width of the city daily to live life. I am not saying they should not live there life in whatever way they deem fit but whether you believe it or not Baton Rouges citizens own choices cause traffic problems with in the city just as the choice to give farmers X% of water rights in the state of California to grow macadamia nuts and other BS results in water shortages during a drought.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 1:30 pm to Wasp
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However, I do not disagree that the infrastructure in Baton Rouge is adequate
It is totally inadequate for a metro area our size.
It started with a poorly designed interstate with poorly planned exits and entrance ramps.
Examples; I-10/I-110, I-10 at Washington, Dalrymple, Perkins (all within a mile and a half of each other), Millerville which goes nowhere, and Essen which ends at BRCC.
It continues on with few primary cross streets that aren't also used to enter and exit the interstate; thus putting cars who want to cross town in competition with cars who want to get on and off the interstate.
Prime examples; College, Sherwood Forrest.
And the fact that the north side of town has an excellent grid system, while the south side is terrible.
Then there's no loop for truckers and interstate travelers or a by-pass which sends traffic from Ascension thru EBR who wants to get to Livingston and vice versa.
Then you have residential streets like Kenilworth, parts of Sherwood, parts of Bluebonnet, Staring, etc. which are major cross streets and the efforts are made not to move traffic through smoothly but to discourage traffic and make it slow down.
And streets like Lee that can't be touched.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 1:32 pm to doubleb
cut the stupid oak trees down and widen some of the streets...
Posted on 7/1/15 at 1:32 pm to LeonPhelps
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Their opinion is completely irrelevant.
not when politics are involved...lots of influence in and around that area. Building a major artery (that isn't even needed there) will not happen.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 1:33 pm to Wasp
People have proven that they will sacrifice greatly to educate their children. Evidence this is the rise of private schools which cost a lot of money and the more children you have the more money it costs.
It is also obvious that people will sacrifice their time, and their emotional stability and commute long distances just so their kids get a good education.
It is also obvious that people will sacrifice their time, and their emotional stability and commute long distances just so their kids get a good education.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 1:33 pm to Wasp
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My solution to the traffic problems would be a south loop that comes off of nicholson/30 over the river and connects back to i10 around lobdell exit.
Extend kenilworth to burbank and eventually to nicholson. extend kenilworth to hennesy/donovan.
You're on the right track but you aren't thinking big enough.
What's needed is a 6-lane loop that goes from the Basin bridge, loops below Plaquemine, crosses the river at St. Gabriel, goes through Prairieville then links up with 12 around Livingston.
4 or 6-lane Nicholson/30 from LSU to this new bridge and lots of traffic that occurs because of LSU (school being in session, gameday, whatever) has a much more attractive artery to get to and from the campus (and growth is going down that way anyway, might as well feed it).
Once this is done, traffic should look a lot better and give planners a better idea of what needs to be done to help intra-city traffic as a lot of the extra-city traffic would be removed.
Another outcome from such a loop would be the extra growth along the corridor (especially around the new bridge as so much of the land west of the river and south or Plaquemine is farmland or wooded).
Posted on 7/1/15 at 1:34 pm to VetteGuy
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crappy vehicles
Another issue. How many times do you see some jalopy broken down in a lane of busy traffic? Somehow they get brake tags, yet have your front tint a little too dark and you're screwed.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 1:36 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Build a fricking loop, extend and add connector streets. They need a bypass from Perkins to I-10 and I-12 without lights on it in several areas.
Every day that passes the less likely it will happen. Also it will just get more expensive to do so.
Hopefully the Essen improvements will help that area but once again its a project that is long overdue. OLOL used to be small...they didn't have all the buildings between 10 & 12...now there are just way too many people on the road. Same can be said for most of the town. They are just so eager to let people build before having the infrastructure in place to accommodate the traffic.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 1:37 pm to doubleb
Right.
Highland should not be 4laned. I find that below i10 it isn't the lateral traffic that is a problem. It's more vertical to and from i10.
Highland should not be 4laned. I find that below i10 it isn't the lateral traffic that is a problem. It's more vertical to and from i10.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 1:38 pm to Bard
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What's needed is a 6-lane loop that goes from the Basin bridge, loops below Plaquemine, crosses the river at St. Gabriel, goes through Prairieville then links up with 12 around Livingston.
I am thinking more Addis area or just above Dow for the bridge.
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4 or 6-lane Nicholson/30 from LSU to this new bridge and lots of traffic that occurs because of LSU (school being in session, gameday, whatever) has a much more attractive artery to get to and from the campus (and growth is going down that way anyway, might as well feed it).
This
Posted on 7/1/15 at 1:39 pm to burgeman
When I lived in Baton Rouge I thought it couldn't get worse but moving to San Diego I realized it really wasn't that bad. I think the problem with br is that for a city it's size the tradfic shouldn't be as bad as it is.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 1:40 pm to burgeman
When I drive from Houston to Mandeville to visit family, I can leave Houston at 4 in the afternoon and when I'm driving in the shitty traffic all around Houston, I think to myself "at least I won't be hitting that damned bridge traffic in Baton Rouge"
Posted on 7/1/15 at 1:42 pm to Wasp
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Highland should not be 4laned.
Burbank serves as a great artery paralleling Highland. Highland doesn't need to be widened.
Burbamk could be upgraded further to tie into Ascension parish across the wetlands.
There is no entrance from EBR from Ascension?Iberville parishes West of Perkins until you reach Nicholson. Build a road from Burbank aouth into Ascesnion parish at the big Burbank curve and feed Ascesnion traffic into EBR from there.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 1:42 pm to burgeman
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The whole Highland/burbank corridor is a mess. There should be a way to get from Highland to Burbank other than a couple major arteries.
I'm confused.
Burbank runs into Highland.
Then you have Gardere.
Then you have Staring.
Then you have Lee.
Then you have a couple right outside the south gates.
How many roads do you need to connect these two?
Posted on 7/1/15 at 1:43 pm to saturday
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for a city it's size
This is really the issue.
No one expects "no traffic", but honestly a city the size of BR should never be mentioned like San Diego or Houston when discussing traffic.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 1:47 pm to Crusty
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How many roads do you need to connect these two?
Gardere should be "downsized". Staring should connect to Gardere via a new road that cuts through the pasture there at the end of Staring through a route which brings it to Gardere near the sewer treatment plan. Widen this and connect it to an improved Gardere that continues on to the casino.
The other "downsized" part of Gardere would get just local traffic.
Kenilworth should connect to Burbank too. So should the exit there at College Town subdivision where the traffic light is.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 1:49 pm to doubleb
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Kenilworth should connect to Burbank too.
This is to get people from Burbank to where?
Posted on 7/1/15 at 1:54 pm to Topwater Trout
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I am thinking more Addis area or just above Dow for the bridge.
I think a bridge in Addis is a great idea, but not for a loop bridge. LA 1 traffic from Plaquemine to I10 has been bad for decades and a bridge in Addis would be perfect for getting some of it across the river. The problem is that it would still have to contend with the flow-through interstate traffic and in 20-30 years another bridge (or some other solution) would be needed.
The way the planning has gone, growth happens then they put in/expand roads to try and meet what's already there. Instead of doing that again, a loop that goes through more undeveloped land in directions where growth is already going puts the horse in front of the wagon for the first time in a loooong time. Instead of reacting to growth, the infrastructure would be guiding it.
This post was edited on 7/1/15 at 1:55 pm
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