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re: Is BR traffic really that bad?
Posted on 7/1/15 at 1:56 pm to VetteGuy
Posted on 7/1/15 at 1:56 pm to VetteGuy
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This is really the issue. No one expects "no traffic", but honestly a city the size of BR should never be mentioned like San Diego or Houston when discussing traffic
This is what kills me about Baton Rouge traffic. It's why I get less pissed driving in NYC. Here, you expect traffic, particularly because of narrow city streets at highly trafficked times. But the traffic still generally seems to move, slowly but surely.
In Baton Rouge, it seems kind of random (with respect to time and location), and when it's a standstill, it's a damn standstill.
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Posted on 7/1/15 at 1:56 pm to Wasp
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Exactly, people choose to sit in traffic. A lot of Baton Rouge's traffic problems are due to the choices its citizens make regarding where they work, live, send there kids to school, among other things. I personally chose to live in an area close to potential jobs, close to potential schools, and close to my friends and places I like to go. Therefore, I rarely sit in traffic in Baton Rouge. Maybe once or twice a month. I almost never get on the interstate. I only cross airline to go to the inlaws.
however, you probably pay more for housing and schooling
Posted on 7/1/15 at 1:57 pm to Topwater Trout
Options.
And build it before all of Burbank is developed between lee and gardere. And then connect it to Nicholson. And connect it to Hennessy like I already said.
And build it before all of Burbank is developed between lee and gardere. And then connect it to Nicholson. And connect it to Hennessy like I already said.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 1:58 pm to Bard
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but not for a loop bridge
If 30 is upgrade from the bridge to 10 it could be the loop. The key is to get the people traveling to NOLA to avoid BR (I think this is one of the problems for the business people in BR)...also all the workers in WBR that live in S. BR or Ascension could use the Addis bridge. I think it would have a huge impact...reason why we will never see it lol
Posted on 7/1/15 at 1:59 pm to burgeman
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s BR traffic really that bad?
Yes.
Poor City Planning and Infrastructure + Terrible Drivers + NIMBY's = You're Gonna Have a Bad Time
Someone mentioned inescapable and that's really a symptom of there being absolutely no alternatives to almost any route across the city, Even when you start driving. There are just so few ways to get from Point A to Point B, that often the choice isn't "Can I get here in a shorter timeframe?" but "Do I feel like sitting in traffic or at least driving today?" There are just 1 or 2 options from any point in the city. It's ridiculous.
The other problem is that for some reason, Baton Rouge seems to require people to develop right on the side of the road everywhere, the big, unintended problem is that there is almost no way to expand major arteries without costly buyouts. That's why we'll never see Airline turn into BR's version of Veteran's, which it really, really needs to be.
Baton Rouge Needs:
Widen Burbank and Airline
Make Nicholson a highway
Kennilworth and Bluebonnet Expansions
Northern Loop - I-10 to I-12 (but NIMBY's are awful, self-centered people)
At least to start. East to West travel in the city needs a severe upgrade. Traffic is one of those reasons that just make Baton Rouge a really problematic city.
This post was edited on 7/1/15 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 7/1/15 at 1:59 pm to Crusty
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Burbank
Is set up to be a great southern intra-city loop but SERIOUSLY needs an extension out to 928/Bluff Road to bridge the transportation gulf between South BR and Prairieville. This would pull a goodly bit of traffic off of the part of Highland that runs from Siegen to the interstate.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 2:00 pm to Ignignot
We haven't gotten to schooling yet, our first born came a few months ago. Our house was about $105/sf though, which is pretty reasonable.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 2:00 pm to Topwater Trout
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The key is to get the people traveling to NOLA to avoid BR
Nah
The key is to get the people who intend to go I-12 to bypass downtown BR
Northern loop or bust
Posted on 7/1/15 at 2:03 pm to burgeman
Its not as bad during the summer months IMO.
Like the poster above said though, the city wasn't really built to support the traffic. Plus construction in LA seems to take longer than anywhere else. By the time they finish one project, they have to start another. And they are already behind by years because of the influx in population over the last decade or so.
This isn't a problem for me though....I can take Florida, North blvd, Government, I10, Perkins or neighbor hood back streets to get to and from work.
Like the poster above said though, the city wasn't really built to support the traffic. Plus construction in LA seems to take longer than anywhere else. By the time they finish one project, they have to start another. And they are already behind by years because of the influx in population over the last decade or so.
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There are just so few ways to get from Point A to Point B, that often the choice isn't "Can I get here in a shorter timeframe?" but "Do I feel like sitting in traffic or at least driving today?" There are just 1 or 2 options from any point in the city. It's ridiculous.
This isn't a problem for me though....I can take Florida, North blvd, Government, I10, Perkins or neighbor hood back streets to get to and from work.
This post was edited on 7/1/15 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 7/1/15 at 2:08 pm to Bard
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Is set up to be a great southern intra-city loop but SERIOUSLY needs an extension out to 928/Bluff Road to bridge the transportation gulf between South BR and Prairieville. This would pull a goodly bit of traffic off of the part of Highland that runs from Siegen to the interstate.
Exactly the strategy I was advocating above.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 2:10 pm to Topwater Trout
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The key is to get the people traveling to NOLA to avoid BR
Yes (as well as those just passing through going east-west), but moving the road to another population center so close to the existing bridge is just shuffling the traffic around and it's not planning for future growth (which is why we are in this pickle in the first place).
I think an Addis bridge would be great for an eventual inter-city southern loop if it connected directly to Burbank but it doesn't give the long-term benefit a St. Gabe bridge does and that's really where focus should be.
This post was edited on 7/1/15 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 7/1/15 at 2:14 pm to Croacka
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Northern loop or bust
Can't ever see this happening....who wants to go across the old bridge
Posted on 7/1/15 at 2:16 pm to Topwater Trout
Yeah, because they would just utilize that bridge as is.....
Posted on 7/1/15 at 2:16 pm to Topwater Trout
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Can't ever see this happening....who wants to go across the old bridge
lol! He's trolling.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 2:17 pm to Bard
Everyone knows all the backroads in BR, so those are even a clusterfrick when traffic is bad.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 2:18 pm to Wasp
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Options.
yeh but what are they? you can get to perkins via starring and don't have to go through a neighborhood. I just think it would be a waste of money. You may be able to get more people to Perkins faster but then where? Perkins/Essen are already unable to sustain the traffic they have now.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 2:20 pm to Bard
If you don't think a northern loop connecting to I12 would take more traffic out of BR than a southern loop to I10, then I don't know what to tell you
Posted on 7/1/15 at 2:23 pm to Topwater Trout
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Options.
yeh but what are they?
There really aren't any since many of the neighborhoods have few entrances and even fewer have routes that allow traffic flow-through.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 2:23 pm to Croacka
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If you don't think a northern loop connecting to I12 would take more traffic out of BR
at a much higher cost? The loop would be mush longer than a southern loop correct?
Posted on 7/1/15 at 2:24 pm to Croacka
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If you don't think a northern loop connecting to I12 would take more traffic out of BR than a southern loop to I10, then I don't know what to tell you
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