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re: I Disagree with Some of You Pot Smokers
Posted on 1/17/14 at 4:12 pm to Pettifogger
Posted on 1/17/14 at 4:12 pm to Pettifogger
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I buy smart/good/honest folks smoking weed, but I don't know a ton of super productive folks that smoke a lot of weed.
They're probably out there, but I haven't met them.
We're not talking about people that "smoke a lot of weed," that would be like comparing alcoholics to people who drink socially on the weekend.
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Posted on 1/17/14 at 4:13 pm to Pettifogger
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I buy smart/good/honest folks smoking weed, but I don't know a ton of super productive folks that smoke a lot of weed.
They're probably out there, but I haven't met them.
IMO it's like an alcoholic. Someone who drinks all day isn't likely to be productive. Someone who smokes all day is likely to be unproductive as well.
Those who drink or smoke to relax, enjoy themselves, etc are no different from each other
Posted on 1/17/14 at 4:14 pm to Corkfather
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By the "people" means the people that actually vote, who are unfortunately older folk who don't want legalization.
There are a series of videos on Huffington Post on Pot legalization. One of the interesting facts was that when California defeated Prop 19, they did exit polls on the voters. The Baby Boomers and under thirty groups typically were pro Pot. Those opposed tended to be in their 40's (parents with teens).
Huffington also has a definitive explanation on the origination of "420".
I think La legalization will pass sooner rather than later. It might be a North La vs. South La thing, but the greed is strong with politicians so it's not about their morals, but how they can siphon off that revenue.
As has already been said, look what a great job they did fixing the education system with gambling revenues.
Posted on 1/17/14 at 4:16 pm to Karnac
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I think La legalization will pass sooner rather than later. It might be a North La vs. South La thing, but the greed is strong with politicians so it's not about their morals, but how they can siphon off that revenue.
As has already been said, look what a great job they did fixing the education system with gambling revenues.
Agreed but I think you'd have a much harder time getting older folk (again, the people who vote and therefore matter) in LA to accept weed than you would gambling.
Posted on 1/17/14 at 4:18 pm to Jim Rockford
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It may not be decades, but I don't see it happening in Louisiana within the next 5 years.
I figure La and Arky will prob be the last 2 states. We couldn't even get it passed here for strictly medical purposes..... But it was actually way closer than I thought. I do feel like the financial successes of Wash and Colorado can def speed up the process for all of the way way way more conservative states, but even then it very well may be 5+ years.
The thing that I really want to see though, is not only for it to be legalized, but for it to be undemonized, i.e. completely taken off all preemployment drug tests and shite like that.
Posted on 1/17/14 at 4:19 pm to agdoctor
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agdoctor
You sound like a lot of fun.
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. I can terminate you for a trace of alcohol which would include cough syrup.
And you're a douche
Posted on 1/17/14 at 4:20 pm to Michael J Cocks
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The thing that I really want to see though, is not only for it to be legalized, but for it to be undemonized, i.e. completely taken off all preemployment drug tests and shite like that.
That'll come with Federal legalization, which will probably come before LA legalizes in which case it wouldn't matter anyway. State law cannot supercede Federal law.
Posted on 1/17/14 at 4:20 pm to Corkfather
Eh, maybe I should say regularly smoke. Granted, I only hang out with a few people who do now, 5 years ago it was a different story.
But anyway, I have a whiskey at night or a beer watching a game, but it's kind of just out of patterning. I feel like a beer goes with a game. I don't need it, I don't even get buzzed, I just do it cause I like the combination.
People I'm talking about get high every night. They're not bothering anyone, but I see that differently than me having a drink in the evening. I don't know if that would count as smoking a lot of weed or not.
But anyway, I have a whiskey at night or a beer watching a game, but it's kind of just out of patterning. I feel like a beer goes with a game. I don't need it, I don't even get buzzed, I just do it cause I like the combination.
People I'm talking about get high every night. They're not bothering anyone, but I see that differently than me having a drink in the evening. I don't know if that would count as smoking a lot of weed or not.
Posted on 1/17/14 at 4:22 pm to Pettifogger
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People I'm talking about get high every night. They're not bothering anyone, but I see that differently than me having a drink in the evening. I don't know if that would count as smoking a lot of weed or not.
Would you consider someone who has a drink or two every night a heavy drinker or someone who drinks "a lot?"
How is it any different? You said yourself:
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They're not bothering anyone
The issue IMO is really freedom. You should be allowed to do as you please in the privacy of your own home as long as you're not on the company dime.
Posted on 1/17/14 at 4:23 pm to Pettifogger
This isn't the point that you are getting at, but I think it's worth pointing out that even 1 beer is having some intoxicating effects. It's really slightly relaxing, but I still see it a big part of just having a single beer while watching the game.
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Posted on 1/17/14 at 4:26 pm to agdoctor
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Posted on 1/17/14 at 4:30 pm to Corkfather
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Posted on 1/17/14 at 4:30 pm to TH03
Instead of posting your thoughts and opinions regarding legalization here, write your representatives.
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I don't drink nearly as much as I did when I lived in LA. I rarely drink hard liquor at all, just a few beers if I go out. I come home and smoke most evenings instead. I don't miss the hangovers and overall shitty feeling the next morning at all. Nothing like a good indica after work.
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I don't drink nearly as much as I did when I lived in LA. I rarely drink hard liquor at all, just a few beers if I go out. I come home and smoke most evenings instead. I don't miss the hangovers and overall shitty feeling the next morning at all. Nothing like a good indica after work.
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Posted on 1/17/14 at 4:31 pm to Corkfather
All I know is that my job is stressful as shite. If I were able to come home after a 16 hour shift and take a few puffs off of a 1-hitter, I would be way more productive. I'd sleep way better, therefor being way more rested and less fatigued at work the following day. I'd work way better knowing that when I get off, I have something to look fwd to that relaxes me, while not completely destroying my liver and/or causing a physical or chemical dependency. And I know for a fact I'd add not only years but quality years to my life. The stress is what will kill me. I don't think there's a better medicine on this earth in terms of safety and effectiveness for those of us with extremely high anxiety and very bad nerves.
Posted on 1/17/14 at 4:31 pm to efrad
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The Federal law restricting marijuana possession might be ended, but that doesn't mean there will be a Federal law requiring all states to legalize marijuana. If Louisiana wants to ban marijuana possession, they can still do so.
Sure, but that would also require a popular vote.
It'd be just like dry counties and blue laws. It's that way in Colorado already, there are municipalities/towns that have outlawed dispensaries.
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Posted on 1/17/14 at 4:33 pm to Corkfather
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Posted on 1/17/14 at 4:34 pm to TH03
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why would I name people I know IRL who don't post here? I could just make up names for all you know
It was a joke b/c that line is always thrown out there. "I know several successful people that smoke weed."
Posted on 1/17/14 at 4:36 pm to austintigerdad
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Does anyone else disagree
No, too much money revenue. Once the state govts. realize the tax revenue that Colorado is getting every year.....then just a matter of time.
Posted on 1/17/14 at 4:38 pm to Corkfather
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The issue IMO is really freedom. You should be allowed to do as you please in the privacy of your own home as long as you're not on the company dime.
In theory I don't disagree, although I still generally think companies should also be able to hire and retain who they want, and included in that is consideration of what they do in their own time.
But, at least in my recollection (I haven't smoked since college in large part), a beer is not equivalent to several hits in physiological impact. So I'm not sure it is apples to apples.
Anyway, I'm not arguing against legalization, or that companies should pass over smokers, but I simply haven't encountered a lot of regular smokers who I think would be prizes for employers.
Posted on 1/17/14 at 4:43 pm to austintigerdad
No way the southern states follow suit in under 10 years. None of them. Even as the west and NE progress and the Feds slowly stop fighting, it will become a states rights issue that will remain illegal for decades for those residing in the Deep South.
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