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re: I Disagree with Some of You Pot Smokers

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Posted by Upperaltiger06
North Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 1/17/14 at 3:54 pm to
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Henry Jones Jr I Disagree with Some of You Pot Smokers If you think Mississippi will legalize weed in any of our lifetimes, you're insane.


Mississipp has some of the most lax possession laws in the country.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/17/14 at 3:55 pm to
my point is that your home activities and vices shouldn't impair your ability to work as long as you aren't doing it on the job. you wouldn't drink on the job, so why do people assume now that weed is legal, everyone is getting high on the job?
Posted by AdamDeMamp
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Posted on 1/17/14 at 3:55 pm to
Is that through a piss test or blood test?

So you're saying the employer could determine whether or not I smoked at home last night or that morning?
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79170 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 3:55 pm to
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A person smoking weed on their own tmie is a terrible reason to fire them. I know that doesn't change the fact that those are company rules, but weed doesn't make a competent person a bad worker. As long as they're not smoking on the job of course.


Eh, and a lot of companies know that. In the professional world people don't want to know what you do because they know it's probably some bad shite to deal with your horrible work-life balance.

But in any large dumb bureaucratic company, rules will continue to be rules.
Posted by agdoctor
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2004
3142 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 3:56 pm to
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the influence of marijuana


Under the influence is not the issue. I can terminate you for a trace of alcohol which would include cough syrup.
Posted by Phil A Sheo
equinsu ocha
Member since Aug 2011
12166 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 3:56 pm to
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To me that is the issue. How would employers test to see whether or not an employee is currently under the influence of marijuana


Break open a bag of Doritos right in front of him...you'll get your answer
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68494 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 3:56 pm to
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Mississipp has some of the most lax possession laws in the country.

True but it still won't be legalized. It will be the last state to do so.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98178 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 3:56 pm to
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Not that I'm against legalization but you can have a drink or to at home and not really feel the effects. I'm not so sure you can take a toke and not catch a nice buzz. But that's about all I got.


There are various levels of THC, just like beer =/= everclear.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171036 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 3:56 pm to
I believe they're using saliva tests to determine recent use that would be considered under the influence.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 3:56 pm to
Will new Orleans have more dispensaries than BR?
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
Member since Sep 2007
19748 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 3:57 pm to
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So you're saying the employer could determine whether or not I smoked at home last night or that morning?


I'm sure they could but it would cost a fortune. I don't see many companies paying that type of money.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 3:57 pm to
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How would employers test to see whether or not an employee is currently under the influence of marijuana considering it stays in your system for a varying period of time?


In a better world perhaps this wouldn't matter. In a better world people would be fired/retained based off of how effectively they performed their jobs.
Posted by AdamDeMamp
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Posted on 1/17/14 at 3:57 pm to
Cool. I'll have to read up on that.
Posted by Upperaltiger06
North Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
3946 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 3:58 pm to
I'm not sure which they are using, but yes. You can tell if a person is high or not. The tests typical for employment are sensitive to metabolizes that have no known psychotropic effect....not THC.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98178 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 3:58 pm to
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I just got back from a meeting where we are terminating people in Colorado for testing positive


Sorry your company is putting itself at a competitive disadvantage by ridding itself of productive workers over a trivial issue.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79170 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

my point is that your home activities and vices shouldn't impair your ability to work as long as you aren't doing it on the job. you wouldn't drink on the job, so why do people assume now that weed is legal, everyone is getting high on the job?


Illegality or "taboo" breeds subculture to some extent. It'll be interesting to see if legalization leads to less people making pot their whole identity.
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
Member since Sep 2007
19748 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 4:00 pm to
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Illegality or "taboo" breeds subculture to some extent. It'll be interesting to see if legalization leads to less people making pot their whole identity.


That's true, for younger people. Older people that still smoke weed typically don't put themselves out there or take pride in being a "stoner." They smoke a joint at night the same as their boss drinks his scotch or whatever.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59483 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 4:00 pm to
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There are various levels of THC, just like beer =/= everclear.

Well let's be honest here. If you're taking a toke, it's for one reason though. You want that buzz.
Posted by agdoctor
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2004
3142 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 4:00 pm to
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So you're saying the employer could determine whether or not I smoked at home last night or that morning?


As of now it makes no difference when you used it. A positive test is immediate termination.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171036 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 4:00 pm to
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It'll be interesting to see if legalization leads to less people making pot their whole identity.

I believe it will as far as recreational users go. a lot of them have branded themselves to be part of the legalization movement. it'll eventually become a normal behavior as legalization spreads and people won't be as vocal about it.

I believe the medicinal users will still be as vocal for years to come and as researchers find more and more uses for it.
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