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re: Hurricane Maria - Visiting the Outer Banks before Moving OTS

Posted on 9/18/17 at 8:36 am to
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40137 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 8:36 am to
That would be 125 and CAT 3 approaching CAT 4.

I dont see the pressure or composition of a CAT 3 or 4..yet.


Hahah I just saw the old EURO and I think its having that fujiwara effect go down from a model perspective.
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 8:39 am
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
11278 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 8:43 am to
quote:

Excuse my ignorance over the matter, but when PR takes a direct hit, how much of the rescue and recovery is the responsibility of the US Govmt and FEMA?


Probably more than if it hit the continental U.S. because PR govt is broke. Also, a lot of the recovery & relief efforts for St Thomas & St John are being based out of Puerto Rico & to a lesser extent St Croix.

I fear it's about to get a lot worse for the Virgin Islands.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40137 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 8:45 am to
Slack maybe I was wrong because they got another sonde reading 119kt at 500m

This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 8:46 am
Posted by someLSUdoosh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2016
882 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:04 am to
quote:

VABuckeye


They manage property down on the island and my sisters husband works construction/is deeply involved with the rebuilding process (so ive heard). I dont know why they havnt left yet. Very stubborn at the moment.

Been hard to communicate with them over the last few days, but they have been adamant they are ok and have supplies...
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 9:06 am
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
29270 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:08 am to
It is incredible how quickly these things can strengthen
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35575 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:14 am to
As long as they're safe. I feel for them and all of the people that are still there. Those are tough conditions they are living under and it looks like it's about to get worse.

I still haven't been able to communicate with any of my friends in the BVI.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35629 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:28 am to
quote:

Slack maybe I was wrong because they got another sonde reading 119kt at 500m


SE eyewall on yours.

NE on slacks. Makes sense.

My fears last night confirmed this morning. Sigh. Two majors blowing through the islands in a month.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40137 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:32 am to
quote:

SE eyewall on yours.

NE on slacks. Makes sense.

My fears last night confirmed this morning. Sigh. Two majors blowing through the islands in a month.



Looks like the eye possibly might be uncovering in the last sat frame.
Posted by ihometiger
Member since Dec 2013
12475 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:48 am to
I have several friends who live in Virgin Gorda & Peter Island who aren't rebuilding or returning. The economy is looking like it is shot to hell as most of the global banks, accounting firms, jewelry companies, & international law firms with offices in Tortola aren't returning and are permanently relocating their operations and employees to places like London, Hong Kong, Cayman Islands, St. Croix, St. Kitts, or Panama.

The cruise ships aren't returning anytime soon (min. 2 to 3 years) to Tortola, St. John, or St. Maarten. All of the cruise ship companies have decided to port elsewhere which is crippling to some of these islands.

I see a large migration of the local population to other islands or countries as well because they won't be able to sustain themselves on some of these islands.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40137 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:51 am to


Got a 959 in there....

edit: 958
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 9:51 am
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
29270 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:53 am to
damn
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40137 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:55 am to
This bad bih will have dropped 30mb in half a day by next pass I bet.
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 9:56 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85084 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:00 am to
quote:

BULLETIN
Hurricane Maria Advisory Number 9
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL152017
1100 AM AST Mon Sep 18 2017

...MARIA RAPIDLY INTENSIFIES INTO A MAJOR HURRICANE...
...THE EYE IS EXPECTED TO MOVE THROUGH THE LEEWARD ISLANDS LATE THIS
AFTERNOON OR THIS EVENING...


SUMMARY OF 1100 AM AST...1500 UTC...INFORMATION
-----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...14.7N 60.1W
ABOUT 60 MI...95 KM E OF MARTINIQUE
ABOUT 95 MI...150 KM ESE OF DOMINICA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...120 MPH...195 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...WNW OR 285 DEGREES AT 10 MPH...17 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...959 MB...28.32 INCHES

Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85084 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:02 am to
961mb with a 31kt wind - surely the pressure is a few mb lower, which is why the NHC went with 959mb.

Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40137 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:06 am to
She's not done RI by any long shot.

Do you have a link for radio wave imagery? I am curious as to the eye wall structure currently.

I dont think any EWRC will save the islands at this point. Maybe PR if it happens. However, she still doesn't have an open eye.

Degree baws, do EWRC still happen in closed eyes?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85084 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:10 am to
quote:

Do you have a link for radio wave imagery? I am curious as to the eye wall structure currently.



Nothing of the eye at the moment though.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35629 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:13 am to
LINK

We got radar baws. Don't need the microwave passes at this point.

quote:

do EWRC still happen in closed eyes?


Absolutely.

ETA: FWIW it would be better for Maria to not do an eyewall replacement until she's running up on PR. She's a really tight storm right now, max winds don't extend out far. So better to have an intense hurricane with a narrow band of major hurricane impacts than a slightly lower windspeed with a big windfield storm.
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 10:17 am
Posted by TigerDog83
Member since Oct 2005
8274 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:29 am to
quote:

The cruise ships aren't returning anytime soon (min. 2 to 3 years) to Tortola, St. John, or St. Maarten. All of the cruise ship companies have decided to port elsewhere which is crippling to some of these islands.


Tortola and St. John don't berth cruise ships.
Posted by otowntiger
O-Town
Member since Jan 2004
15650 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:33 am to
quote:

ETA: FWIW it would be better for Maria to not do an eyewall replacement until she's running up on PR. She's a really tight storm right now, max winds don't extend out far. So better to have an intense hurricane with a narrow band of major hurricane impacts than a slightly lower windspeed with a big windfield storm.
agreed. she's a tiny storm and very minor shifts in track can have huge impacts on any of the islands including PR. Hopefully the 15 miles of hurricane force+ winds can stay offshore to one side or the other. Of course this presumes no EWRC that would cause an expansion of those winds as you say Duke.
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 10:35 am
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35575 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:34 am to
quote:

The cruise ships aren't returning anytime soon (min. 2 to 3 years) to Tortola, St. John, or St. Maarten. All of the cruise ship companies have decided to port elsewhere which is crippling to some of these islands.


Cruise ships have never ported at St. John. They dock at St. Thomas which is the most frequented cruise ship port in the world. They'll be back there and probably a whole lot sooner than you stated.
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 10:35 am
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