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re: Hospital nurse arrested after refusing illegal blood draw order
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:04 am to LucasP
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:04 am to LucasP
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Hey genius, that's my tax money going into that check. If the nurse just does as she's told then we save money, cop should have just said she was resisting and coerced cooperation.
Sarcasm noted Luke it's not your tax money. It is the insurance/bonding company of the local law enforcement.
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Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:05 am to nes2010
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How do you prove the owner was driving the car then? And what about stolen cars.
I'm just saying what the studies suggested. They were more concerned with the safety of the public at large than arrest and conviction rates.
im not picking a side on this particular point.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:06 am to NYNolaguy1
Nurse Wubbels come on down. You're the next contestant on The Price is Right.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:06 am to NYNolaguy1
The cop should be arrested and tried. And he may not be convicted due to jury nullification (like many brutality claims).
This stuff is just ridiculous.
This stuff is just ridiculous.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:06 am to SabiDojo
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A crash where one is seriously injured and another dead.
Most states have mandatory blood draws in those types of crashes.
Not for the victim. The guy they were wanting to draw from was shown on camera being hit head-on by the car the cops were pursuing. He was not at fault, and the cops had full knowledge of that.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:06 am to NYNolaguy1
Play stupid games.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:07 am to TigerGrad2011
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Nurse Wubbels
She is a 2 time Olympic skier and a nurse who was defending the rights of her patient. I mean, can you get more stand-up American than that? Short of shooting her, I don't think the police could have screwed up more here.
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 9:08 am
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:07 am to LucasP
I tend to agree with the police in all situations, but in this case the nurse is 100% right.....
Not to mention, couldn't the nurse get charged with assualt/battery if she were to draw labs on the patient without the proper documentation?
Not to mention, couldn't the nurse get charged with assualt/battery if she were to draw labs on the patient without the proper documentation?
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:09 am to NYNolaguy1
We are all in trouble when the police don't even know the law, or at least make a call for clarification of the law before an arrest is made. That was purely emotionally driven by the arresting officer. He was pissed, and should have used his fricking head, but he didn't.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:09 am to LSShoe1030
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I tend to agree with the police in all situations, but in this case the nurse is 100% right..... Not to mention, couldn't the nurse get charged with assualt/battery if she were to draw labs on the patient without the proper documentation?
Yep.
And could get in more shite by allowing the cop to draw the blood, like he wanted to do
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:09 am to LSShoe1030
Doesn't this play into HIPAA laws? Patient privacy rights? I understand the notion of clearing a fellow officer, but they have to know that hospitals protect patient privacy above all else. Get a warrant, or go away.
They probably drew blood when he first got there. The hospital wasn't going to release information until their standards were met, which they weren't.
They probably drew blood when he first got there. The hospital wasn't going to release information until their standards were met, which they weren't.
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 9:16 am
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:12 am to Mike da Tigah
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He was embarrassed ,
FIFY.
He arrested her because the hospital administrator told him over the phone he was making a mistake and then told him no.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:15 am to LSShoe1030
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Not to mention, couldn't the nurse get charged with assualt/battery if she were to draw labs on the patient without the proper documentation?
Yes...drawing blood without implied consent is battery. The thing is...the victim's family can give consent if he is unconscious. The cops could have waited for them to get there and request the blood sample be taken.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:18 am to Overbrook
Also note all of the cops who did nothing to stop this.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:18 am to NYNolaguy1
Please tell me this cop has been fired.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:19 am to madmaxvol
Just like with 99% of other cop behaving badly stories, without the video no one knows about this, the department does nothing, and the cop continues thinking he was right in his actions.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:20 am to Jon Ham
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Please tell me this cop has been fired.
He is still on active duty. They only suspended him from the blood-drawing program.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:20 am to Overbrook
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Also note all of the cops who did nothing to stop this.
i believe those were all hospital security guards. i wouldn't expect them to rebuke the authority of an actual LEO
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:22 am to lsujro
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i believe those were all hospital security guards. i wouldn't expect them to rebuke the authority of an actual LEO
To cops working side job at hospital I believe.
They said they were told by superiors to stand down unless the arresting officer got too "violent" with her.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:24 am to LSShoe1030
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I tend to agree with the police in all situations
Then you're wrong. Agree with them when they are right, and disagree when they are wrong. They aren't right in close to "all situations".
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