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re: Germanwings Crash: One Pilot locked out of cockpit at time of crash
Posted on 3/27/15 at 7:23 am to yurintroubl
Posted on 3/27/15 at 7:23 am to yurintroubl
The bus full of kids or vacationers that goes the cliff; the 18 wheeler disaster on the interstate. How do we know a lot of these weren't suicide. No voice recorders in school buses.
The mass shootings...almost all done by psychotics who hadn't exhibited criminal behavior before that time.
It's a lot easier when you can compartmentalize problems to "the enemy." But the world rarely works that way.
The mass shootings...almost all done by psychotics who hadn't exhibited criminal behavior before that time.
It's a lot easier when you can compartmentalize problems to "the enemy." But the world rarely works that way.
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 7:26 am to Overbrook
AMBER ALERT for CLE baby;Investigators find Medical Leave Note in home of German co-pilot accused of crashing jetliner in French Alps on WHK
Posted on 3/27/15 at 8:02 am to EA6B
quote:That's totally separate to my point. The 2 person rule would be for situations like germanwings or if the lone pilot became ill/ heart attack/ etc someone else would be there to open the door or summon the other pilot back to the cockpit.
If one of the pilots decides to crash the plane during the take off or landing phase when the plane is at a very low altitude, there could be 10 people in the cockpit and there would be little they could do to prevent it. By the time anyone realized the plane was entering an unusual attitude it would be too late to recover given the close proximity to the ground.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 8:13 am to yurintroubl
Yeah, isn't it regulated that a jet powered aircraft must have 2 pilots in the cockpit at all times?
Posted on 3/27/15 at 8:25 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
It is in America. Yesterday many of the European carriers changed their rules to follow suit.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 9:15 am to tigerpimpbot
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The co-pilot blamed for deliberately crashing a German airliner into the Alps had concealed an illness from his employers and tore up a doctor's note that called for him to go on medical leave on the day of the tragedy, according to a statement from German prosecutors.
Police found the medical certificate and other documents during a search Thursday at the Duesseldorf home of Andreas Lubitz, the 27-year-old Germanwings co-pilot.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 9:43 am to MetTiger
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Not sure if this has been said already, but a more practical situation may be to have two doors, one for the cockpit, and another on the other side of the restroom area, which is about 3 feet away. When the pilot goes to the toilet, the FA closes the second door, and only then does the cockpit door open.
The pilot can access the toilet now, and the cockpit door is by default unlocked, as the 2nd door is now locked. The pilot goes to the toilet, and re-enters the cockpit area, locks the cockpit door, which in turn releases the 2nd door.
It's sort of like an air-lock on the space station. The same protocol can be used for delivering food to the cockpit crew.
PS: As a second measure, the FA can enter the cockpit while the other pilot is in the loo.
I'm not sure that you can do anymore, other than having the A/C be flown remotely from the ground if it comes to the worst case scenario.
You can never totally eliminate Evil, you can just make it harder for them to succeed.
or you can just give the pilot and co-pilot an override key to the cockpit door lock.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:43 am to WeeWee
Co pilot "unfit to work" per letter from a Doctor found in his trash bin at home....
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:52 am to The Mick
Unreal. I have no idea what Germanwings financial condition is, but I will be amazed if they survive financially.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:53 am to tigerpimpbot
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The co-pilot blamed for deliberately crashing a German airliner into the Alps had concealed an illness from his employers and tore up a doctor's note that called for him to go on medical leave on the day of the tragedy, according to a statement from German prosecutors.
What a total piece of shite.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:59 am to TheIndulger
Do healthcare providers have a responsibility to alert employers in the event of eminent danger? For example would we expect a physician to need to alert the airline that he was unfit for duty?
Posted on 3/27/15 at 11:07 am to tigerpimpbot
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It is in America. Yesterday many of the European carriers changed their rules to follow suit.
No it's not. Two crew members, not pilots. For example if a pilot goes to the restroom a flight attendant must go in the cockpit.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 11:08 am to WeeWee
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or you can just give the pilot and co-pilot an override key to the cockpit door lock.
Not sure if you mean a physical key or a key code. Both are flawed in that they can be compromised by a passenger.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 11:11 am to CaptainJ47
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Do healthcare providers have a responsibility to alert employers in the event of eminent danger?
Unfortunately, probably not.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 11:14 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
quote:Same shite for driving a tug boat. Last time I was on one, I was that second person. Unfortunately, I hadn't ever driven one before and when the pilot went to go take a shite on the back deck, I ran the barge into the side of the Atchafalaya River.
Yeah, isn't it regulated that a jet powered aircraft must have 2 pilots in the cockpit at all times?
As far as the extra key thing goes, someone could just kill the pilot and take his key. Would need to hide it somewhere, but it wouldn't have happened in this situation since the dude evidently passed the frick out.
Don't these planes have autopilot?
Posted on 3/27/15 at 11:17 am to tigerpimpbot
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concealed an illness
What possible illness?
Batshiatcrazia?
Being an a-hole syndrome?
I'm going to go out on a limb here - he expressed murderous/suicidal rage to the doctor who then said, "Hey buddy, why don't you sit out the next couple of flights in the rotation until we can talk this out?"
He tears up the note and goes through with his, "I'll show them."
Posted on 3/27/15 at 11:19 am to CaptainJ47
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For example would we expect a physician to need to alert the airline that he was unfit for duty?
THIS x10000
Posted on 3/27/15 at 11:19 am to COTiger
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Unreal. I have no idea what Germanwings financial condition is, but I will be amazed if they survive financially.
They're a subsidiary of Lufthansa.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 11:22 am to Jim Rockford
Thanks 
Posted on 3/27/15 at 11:32 am to COTiger
I assume they're insured but not for 149 deaths from an unfit pilot. (although it sounds like the airline didn't know he was unfit).
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