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re: Funny business in the Delta: Farmer, bankers accused of racketeering
Posted on 5/21/17 at 9:29 pm to member12
Posted on 5/21/17 at 9:29 pm to member12
I'm reading all this for the first time. I'm very good friends with a guy that just sold his 3500 acre sweet potato farm in Delhi. I'll see him tomorrow and see if I can get any others details about these guys.
Posted on 5/21/17 at 9:40 pm to supadave3
I would love cliff notes as well.
Posted on 5/21/17 at 10:03 pm to member12
So I am confused, if he was the owner and managed all the farms why couldn't he put them in his name? What benefit was it to have them in others names?
Posted on 5/21/17 at 10:06 pm to GREENHEAD22
Theres some kind of tax or subsidy advantage to having a bunch of little farms instead of one big farm. Somebody else will explain it better.
Posted on 5/21/17 at 10:24 pm to Jim Rockford
That guy is in for a crappy rest of his life.
I had a friend whose dad owned his own insurance company. High risk insurance like trucking companies and such. Got addicted to pain killers after hip surgery, developed a gambling problem. He got in the hole big and started using premium payments to try and dig himself out.
He got busted, lost everything, but avoided jail time due to health. He has nothing, drives an 20 yr old Jeep Grand Cherokee and lives in a run down duplex.
A few stupid decisions took him from having anything he wanted to having nothing but a disability check due to the bad hip he had put in.
I had a friend whose dad owned his own insurance company. High risk insurance like trucking companies and such. Got addicted to pain killers after hip surgery, developed a gambling problem. He got in the hole big and started using premium payments to try and dig himself out.
He got busted, lost everything, but avoided jail time due to health. He has nothing, drives an 20 yr old Jeep Grand Cherokee and lives in a run down duplex.
A few stupid decisions took him from having anything he wanted to having nothing but a disability check due to the bad hip he had put in.
Posted on 5/21/17 at 10:26 pm to Jim Rockford
These good ole plaintiffs were making $60,000 a year plus Dickerson was buying them all new Z71s for farm labor. They were right in the thick of things until it went sour. This case may go a little different than most think. Well besides Franklin State Bank where one of his mistresses worked. I know a guy that TD tried to use his name and SS number and he said sssshhhhhiiiiitttt!
Posted on 5/21/17 at 11:01 pm to DONHOGG
The FDIC and Banking Commission are about to go in dry on these banks. Problem is these board members are sweating bullets because they will be personally liable for all fraud that was committed by the bank and there seems to be a ton of it going on. I'm not gonna look up the financials of each of the banks, but I don't believe they would have enough capital to simply write a memo on overdraft balances of this amount. Looks to me there were some bank auditors on the take here also.
Posted on 5/21/17 at 11:02 pm to DONHOGG
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These good ole plaintiffs were making $60,000 a year plus Dickerson was buying them all new Z71s for farm labor
Times was hard.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 5:46 am to Sparetime
So whats the benefit of having the farms in different names?
Posted on 5/22/17 at 7:10 am to chinese58
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Posted on 5/22/17 at 7:22 am to Sweetiepie
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This is probably the only true statement on this whole board.Does it matter what the boys got paid? I think it matters more as to how much of the 30 million they got frauded into. They boys I'm sure did not get any of that money. Nevertheless got there name blasted out and humiliated for things they had not clue about. Everyone will seee the truth I'm not the one to say it. It will all come out very soon!
You should work on your English before getting on a stand to testify...
Posted on 5/22/17 at 7:23 am to member12
on an inflation basis, the FBI is way off the mark.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 7:33 am to GREENHEAD22
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So whats the benefit of having the farms in different names?
When the price or revenue goes under a certain level you get an PLC or an ARC payment depending on which one you signed up for when the new farm bill was created 3 years ago. I'm guessing this guy signed up his rice under PLC and his other crop base under ARC.
There is limit on how much one entity/person can collect so he was signing up all these other guys as farming entities to collect more money for himself.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 7:35 am to Jim Rockford
Were they welfare farmers?
Posted on 5/22/17 at 7:55 am to Midtiger farm
Gotcha, with a couple close family members or close friends it seems like you could easily take advantage of that program.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 8:02 am to GREENHEAD22
You have to prove on-farm management of each person besides spouse and the usda and FSA will come snooping around if they think something fishy is going on. That's how this guy got caught.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 8:19 am to Midtiger farm
Theoretically though say I was a large landowner and I rented out my property to four different guys to farm. However I was the one actually farming and they had minimal roles. They each get the extra subsidies for farming a smaller size, I give them a cut and take the rest and they play along. Is that pretty much what happened here except that the guys didn't know they were being used and they weren't getting a cut?
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Posted on 5/22/17 at 9:06 am to GREENHEAD22
Don't know how I missed this. My company does work for several of the businesses involved.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 9:16 am to GREENHEAD22
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This post was edited on 5/22/17 at 9:49 am
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