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re: For those thinking about suicide

Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:17 pm to
Posted by Bullfrog
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Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:17 pm to
Terrible argument Shawn. Jeez did you even get your ged?
Posted by CapitalCityDevil
Seattle
Member since Nov 2014
2916 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:18 pm to
Suicide is not inherently selfish. If you have been there then you should know. I have been there. I was hospitalized for "being there". It isn't selfish. Does it hurt the people around you, sure. But their hurting is in no way more important than the person who committed suicide.
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
17152 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:18 pm to
I don't really think about my father on a daily basis. It really bothers me when I do things. I get married next year and he won't be there. I get my masters in May and he won't be here. He missed my high school graduation, my college graduation, prom, my first deer, my first solo flight. It just pisses me off thinking about it.

I honestly beleive that everything happens for a reason. My stepfather has been really amazing to my mother and I. He encouraged me to do various things in my life which led to where I am today. I doubt I would be where I am (at least take the path I chose) if it wasn't for my stepdad.
Posted by Bullfrog
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Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:18 pm to
Posted by SuperSaint
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:19 pm to
She stated that your comment was ignorant. Which it is. That wasn't any personal attack on your character. That was her stating what your comment reflected. You then decide to bring up her pussy.
Posted by Paige
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Member since Oct 2010
84748 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:19 pm to
Your response was very uneducated aka ignorant

Please tell me I'm wrong and that you actually have some personal knowledge of the subject other than making ill informed snap judgements
Posted by Real Pirate
NE LA
Member since Apr 2013
1879 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:20 pm to
The truth has been spoken.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39979 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:20 pm to
quote:

You started with personal attacks instead of discussing the issue at hand and now want to call me out for the same?


Calling you ignorant isn't a personal attack, it's a simple statement of fact. Sorry if that offends you.

ETA: eh, you're probably trolling. nevermind.
This post was edited on 2/23/15 at 9:21 pm
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40464 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:23 pm to
As long as you are fairly emotionally stable and have a willingness to help, there would be an opportunity. They train you extensively on protocol, so they don't throw you to the wolves. Of course sometimes the caller will go through with it, and I couldn't imagine how traumatizing that could be. It's a huge time and emotional investment, that's for sure.
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
17152 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:23 pm to
This thread is about suicide, and now it is about hate and anger, so I guess you guys get the point....
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:25 pm to
I have a very close childhood friend that committed suicide a couple years ago. He left behind a wife and two beautiful little girls. He did this while his girls were home and his wife was at work. Also my stepfather who had terminal brain cancer that my mother, sister and myself decided after he was unable to decide for himself not to prolong his suffering with life support and nutritional supplements that would have kept him alive much longer.
This post was edited on 2/23/15 at 9:26 pm
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28128 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:26 pm to
quote:

Suicide is not inherently selfish. .


No, it isn't.

As a younger, less mature person I thought it was. As I learned more about people, I got a lot less judgmental.

The OP sounds like he could really make a difference.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:27 pm to
quote:

THEdeathvalley


quote:

CapitalCityDevil



I once came to the end of my line and almost jumped out of a high rise at the drop of a hat without even thinking about it. Luckily I had someone with me that loved me and stopped me at all cost. Don't know why i'm sharing this, but once I reflected I was ashamed and do feel selfish but also don't think it's always a selfish act. People that spew that don't put into perspective the suffering that some people suffer from both mental and physical.
Posted by 1234567VFL
Nashville
Member since Jun 2014
1272 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:28 pm to
It is hard to overcome, but you will find that living is the right choice!
Posted by HoustonChick86
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Member since Dec 2009
57262 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:30 pm to
quote:

I was sad then angry. Regretful then remorseful. Sad then angry again.

It just goes in cycles and never goes away.

To the OP. You could google suicide prevention. I know there are plenty of organizations.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:30 pm to
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bullshite. It is 100% selfish and weak.

And you think it's selfish of your loved ones for them to not want you to kill yourself? Wow


You clearly don't understand what you're talking about. Educate yourself and then share your opinion.
Posted by DuckManiak
Member since Nov 2011
3731 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:32 pm to
A close friend of mine was diagnosed with bipolar disorder 2 weeks before his suicide. It sucks. He left his loving family, a beautiful girlfriend, and friends that loved him dearly. I would have never known anything was wrong with him. Had a few drinks with him a night before he took his life. Miss him everyday. I wish he would have talked to me or hinted in any way he was in trouble. I have gone over that conversation countless times in my head thinking of anything he said. The simple fact is, he was fighting something dark and either thought he had it under control, or was too embarrassed to ask for help. You're absolutely correct. If you're in a bad spot, please talk to someone. It can be a stranger in a office, or your best friend. Just give someone a chance to help.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:33 pm to
quote:

HoustonChick86
And good vibes your way as well HC86
Posted by CapitalCityDevil
Seattle
Member since Nov 2014
2916 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:36 pm to
quote:

SuperSaint


My 3 best friends died within 3 days of each other the summer after we graduated from high school. One of the deaths was a suicide. I know it kind of sounds like I was "following a herd" towards my own death after this, but in the end I convinced myself to continue my life (no one else convinced me of that). But, I was in bad shape for a little while.
This post was edited on 2/23/15 at 9:38 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80200 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:37 pm to
I've been in low spots and wondered about it, but was always too much of a pussy to pull the trigger (or even really pick the gun up).

That's what makes me think those that actually do are in a way, way lower place than I have (luckily) ever been.

This post was edited on 2/23/15 at 9:39 pm
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