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re: For those thinking about suicide

Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:40 pm to
Posted by HoustonChick86
Catalina Wine Mixer
Member since Dec 2009
57263 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:40 pm to
Thanks, SS. You too!

Dealing with suicide is awful. Wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy. It has completely changed my life and I think it is very admirable the OP wants to get involved.
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
Member since Jul 2013
11423 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:41 pm to
You sound like a young, wannabe tough-guy...hopefully you will mature as you age and begin to understand the human race a little better...hopefully.
Posted by AFtigerFan
Ohio
Member since Feb 2008
3253 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:41 pm to
Here's an article about someone I know that recently committed suicide. In no way was she weak or selfish. She was a beautiful person, inside and out. I wish she would have opened up to let someone help before it was too late.

I used to think suicide was the easy and selfish way out. But that was a while ago, and before multiple people I know took their lives. Although I don't condone what they did, I do understand a little better.

Former Air Force Captain commits suicide
Posted by Paige
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Member since Oct 2010
84748 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:42 pm to
I wouldn't put your step father in this conversation at all. But sorry to hear about him and your friend. Sounds like you just wanted to think the worst of him rather than trying to figure out how the frick he could do that

My uncle was one of the greatest men I ever knew. I'd put him up there with my dad and granddaddy. I know the board doesn't think much of this but he was a Baptist preacher. He was a great husband, father, uncle, pastor. He didn't drink, smoke, cuss, or whatever. He was more of a dad to me when I was growing up than my own. Then he was diagnosed as bipolar. He quit the ministry and did various jobs. Then he became a landman. Then his job ran out and he was laid off and couldn't afford his meds and left my aunt. Then he started doing coke. He shot himself with a shotgun. He left behind a wife and three kids. I was heartbroken. I did all I knew to do and that was educate myself to try and figure out how in the hell that could happen. I learned a lot during my research and that really helped me cope. To realize what a personal hell he was in

Then I was diagnosed as bipolar. I've never been suicidal but I have gotten to the point where I could totally sympathize with those who had committed suicide. Even though I have first hand experience of how just how badly it hurts those around you. I'm no longer angry with him and I don't think he was selfish or weak
Posted by Swoopin
Member since Jun 2011
22030 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:45 pm to
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bullshite. It is 100% selfish and weak.

And you think it's selfish of your loved ones for them to not want you to kill yourself? Wow


I used to take this more hard-line approach. I don't think I ever came out and said it, but I always judged these people.

But over my years I've accumulated perspectives, and come to the realization, that just because I can't rationalize it, doesn't mean someone living with a completely different reality than mine and the rest of us couldn't.

Sure, it looks selfish to the survivors, but I just pray thanks to God that I've never been of a state of mind or circumstances to where I considered it a viable option. I don't presume to know what it's like to live a life where that feels like a real option, and I'm thankful for that and heartbroken for those who have fallen into those depths.

When you meet tragedy in your life, especially the "why would this happen to me?" type of tragedy, your mind starts thinking differently and you can lose a sense of purpose. If you're lucky, those are only temporary feelings. I feel like those that take their lives must not see the faintest light at the end of the tunnel, and so I feel sorry for them and withhold judgment as best as I can.

I don't afford that open mindedness to those that you read about in the news who ended it before they got something they rightfully deserved, such as jail time, etc.
Posted by Puddinhead
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2003
4299 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:52 pm to
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bullshite. It is 100% selfish and weak.



Congrats on your ignorance.
Posted by HoustonChick86
Catalina Wine Mixer
Member since Dec 2009
57263 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:53 pm to
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My 3 best friends died within 3 days of each other the summer after we graduated from high school.

Wow. That is awful.
Posted by CapitalCityDevil
Seattle
Member since Nov 2014
2916 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:53 pm to
quote:

When you meet tragedy in your life, especially the "why would this happen to me?" type of tragedy
This really isn't it (at least for me). I was/am so obsessed with how unfair it is that my friends parents no longer have their children. I felt like they should hate me for being alive.
Posted by Paige
Vice President of the OT
Member since Oct 2010
84748 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:56 pm to
Watch out. He's fixing to call you a whore
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
17152 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:57 pm to
quote:

My 3 best friends died within 3 days of each other the summer after we graduated from high school.


I couldn't even imagine man. I have never lost a best friend. I have lost one close friend, and a few casual friends.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80200 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:57 pm to
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fixing


<3
Posted by Darla Hood
Near that place by that other place
Member since Aug 2012
13915 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:57 pm to
quote:

Lol, coming from someone who's pussy has been seen by more people than any given LSU/Bama football game , that means very little


Speaking of weak, that kind of deflection reveals real weakness on your part.

Anyway, how can we judge the depths of someone else's pain? There are so many different kinds of struggles out there. Try to be kind to one another.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51534 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:57 pm to
One of my best friends dad committed suicide a couple years ago. He had fallen on hard times, divorce, loss of job, foreclosure. It's a pain that my friend and his family will never overcome. Very sad.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81188 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:57 pm to
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LSUDonkeyKong/CRev



This is news to me, but I love this man.
Posted by mailman
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
6143 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:59 pm to
I'm ok with these threads popping up every now and then. It's a reality, and I'm sure this helps people who are struggling. Suicide/ death by accident of friends never gets old. Hate to lose a friend and hope I never experience it again.
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32021 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 10:01 pm to
people who say suicide is selfish are just ignorant. Mental illness is real, thats all i will say
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 10:02 pm to
I can see where you are coming from and can appreciate the issues people with true mental illnesses deal with. IMO that is a totally different scenario from someone that is down on their luck or made a series of bad choices and doesn't want to face them.
Mental illnesses such as bipolar disorder controls your brain in a way that you aren't in control vs someone that has all their wits about them but doesn't want to face the music from the choices they have made.
Posted by madamsquirrel
The Snarlington Estate
Member since Jul 2009
48438 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 10:02 pm to
My daughter just told me that a friend of hers from high school committed suicide over the weekend. Could be the same guy since her friend was a sweet likeable guy also. Had the same job as her and they talked work last week she said. Told another friend of theirs he had been sad and lonely lately and she is not taking it well.
Posted by HoustonChick86
Catalina Wine Mixer
Member since Dec 2009
57263 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 10:03 pm to
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I couldn't even imagine man. I have never lost a best friend. I have lost one close friend, and a few casual friends.


I had been blessed to only have older relatives pass, but the day I lost my youngwr sister was by far the most awful experience of my life. And something I will never get over.
Posted by Paige
Vice President of the OT
Member since Oct 2010
84748 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 10:03 pm to
how is that a thing


I think Shawn needs to learn some compassion instead of villainizing his friend. But maybe that's his way of coping
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