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re: Everest is a clusterfrick right now UPDATE: now 4 dead in 4 days

Posted on 5/22/16 at 11:35 pm to
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98188 posts
Posted on 5/22/16 at 11:35 pm to
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Is there a base camp only option?


A number of companies offer base camp treks. Base camp itself has a lot of amenities emblematic of the overcrowding issue we've talked about, such as an internet cafe and a medical clinic. OTOH it sits at 17600 feet, so you must train even for a base camp trek. By comparison, Mt Whitney, the highest peak in the continental US, is just under 15000 feet.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27414 posts
Posted on 5/22/16 at 11:37 pm to
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Is there a base camp only option? I would go and eat pancakes every morning and watch these nutts die one by one while adjusting the telescope with my buttery Aunt Jemima fingers.



I wanna walk around the base camp in some coarse canvas pants and boots, with a bottle of syrup in one hand, a bottle of bourbon in the other, and my chest hair rippling in the frigid breeze.

What would it cost to develop that reputation?

I'll pay it.
Posted by dualed
Member since Sep 2010
4695 posts
Posted on 5/22/16 at 11:54 pm to
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OTOH it sits at 17600


I've been to the top of Pikes Peak in Colorado before (little over 14000 ft). I couldn't stay outside for longer than 10 minutes because of how extremely cold and windy it was. I bought a hot chocolate that instantly cooled upon walking outside. Everest is what, 29000 ft? Over twice as high. I can't imagine trekking that.
Posted by BoomerJam
Lumpkin Street
Member since Sep 2010
1098 posts
Posted on 5/22/16 at 11:56 pm to
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Nobody has learned anything. It's not the most difficult nor most dangerous mountain, but it's too popular and too easy to get to. It attracts people who have no business being there.


Exactly right. David Breshear's, the guy behind the Everest Imax film, made a documentary for PBS Frontline a few years ago called Storm of Everest about the 1996 disaster. They made the exact same point about the fact that it is not difficult climbing by rock climbing standards. However, the extreme conditions and build up of climbers causing delays can always lead to problems. I would highly suggest watching it if you want a really interesting take on Everest and ethics of survive and rescue tactics on the mountain.
Posted by pensacola
pensacola
Member since Sep 2005
4629 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:03 am to
I watched a playoff game from the 600 level of the dome.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:10 am to
One of my friend's dads attempted in the early 80s. Said he trained for two years as often as possible and still didn't make it. After watching these shows, it seems like every Tom, Dick, and Harry with a few thousand extra dollars tries it nowadays
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98188 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:11 am to
Some people are genetically better suited to altitude than others. Physical conditioning only takes you so far. If your body says no more, that's that.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:33 am to
I drove my truck up a mountain in Arizona to around 10k IIRC. You can definitely feel the altitude and it took me about 30 minutes of relaxing to get acclimated since I'm usually underwater

The water bottles I had in my truck were doing all kinds of weird shite
This post was edited on 5/23/16 at 12:34 am
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82365 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 1:22 am to
I have zero fricking sympathy for people killed on Everest, in fact, I hate wasting my time reading about people killed on Everest.
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
17222 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 1:50 am to
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i have zero fricking sympathy for people killed on Everest, in fact, I hate wasting my time reading about people killed on Everest.




In the spirit of saving time going forward, do you mind beginning all your posts with

***Spoiler Alert*** Shitty post below, read at your own risk

Thanks.

(You don't have to put the thanks, that was me thanking you for doing us that courtesy)
Posted by windmill
Prairieville, La
Member since Dec 2005
7017 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 4:40 am to
OK. Gotcha. You're a tough guy. Move on.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
21804 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 5:31 am to
For all you badasses that "just wanna do base camp," 4th person in 4 days has just died. He died of altitude sickness at base camp.

quote:

Subash Paul, 44, died at Base Camp II from altitude sickness, according to Wangchu Sherpa, Managing Director of Trekking Camp Nepal. Paul was part of a team (consisting of four Indian climbers and four Sherpas)


LINK

This post was edited on 5/23/16 at 5:36 am
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
13385 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 5:59 am to
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snapchat for two guys climbing it right now. Pretty fricking awesome.


I've been following them as well on snapchat. Have they made any mention of these deaths? I can't recall them saying anything on snapchat. Think maybe they aren't told about deaths to keep morale up?
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119189 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 6:12 am to
They should probably only allow people who pass some physical tests attempt to climb, and not just any idiot with money. Might break the log jam.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51414 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 6:50 am to
No one has mentioned the North Face.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 6:58 am to
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If you take on climbing Everest you should have to sign something saying you're aware no money will be spent on a rescue party.


Everyone already understands that. It's Nepal, not the US.
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4587 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 6:58 am to
I've been following them as well. And for the other posters who haven't heard of "everestnofilter" yet, these dudes are summiting the north force withOUT supplemental oxygen.
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4587 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 6:59 am to
I believe Meru is actually tougher to summit than k2. I watched that documentary and IIRC only 3 climbers have ever summoned that mountain and they had previously done k2 and Everest several times.
Posted by SmoothOperator96
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Member since Jan 2016
4044 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 7:00 am to
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might go climb monkey hill tomorrow. I'll report back on the weather up there


Did you make it?
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65111 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 7:01 am to
Base camp is roughly 3,000 feet higher then I have ever been. I hiked up a 14er in Colorado last year and that last 1,000 feet or so just about did me in. I had to stop every 50-75 feet to catch my breath on the final ascent.

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