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re: Do law school rankings matter?
Posted on 10/13/15 at 8:31 am to Pettifogger
Posted on 10/13/15 at 8:31 am to Pettifogger
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LOL. You're fricking insane if you think 170 white guy with 4.0 from Georgia Southern gets you into Stanford or Harvard.
I'd be willing to bet this white guy knows a little more about YHS admissions than you.
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 8:42 am to Monsieur le Duc
That link does nothing to help your argument. But hey, why listen to what people who know about the field tell you when you can regurgitate shite you find online.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:35 am to Pettifogger
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That link does nothing to help your argument. But hey, why listen to what people who know about the field tell you when you can regurgitate shite you find online.
I'm the "white dude" in question - my b on drafting ambiguity. That said, you don't need personal experience or even anecdote to see what the numbers clearly communicate: nobody gives a damn about your major or your undergrad. These schools are placating the USNWR, which doesn't give bonus points for Princeton grads.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:38 am to Futures Bleak
No
Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:44 am to Monsieur le Duc
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I'm the "white dude" in question - my b on drafting ambiguity. That said, you don't need personal experience or even anecdote to see what the numbers clearly communicate: nobody gives a damn about your major or your undergrad. These schools are placating the USNWR, which doesn't give bonus points for Princeton grads.
Law School Numbers tells the story much better if it is necessary. The point is, you're going to get more mileage from a top tier undergrad degree, particularly in STEM, than you are a lower tier degree. This is mostly applicable to white/asian males, and to a slightly lesser extent, females. Obviously if you are UM, it's not going to matter at all.
If you're a white guy who went to one of the schools in question with a 170/4.0 from a lower tier institution, I'd estimate you're probably the exception right now.
I think it is frivolous for law school bound students to fret over a few spots in USNWR when it comes to undergrad destinations, but especially for those with good, but not great LSAT scores (say, 160-168 or so), it certainly comes into play. All of this is skewed by the fact that not many people go to low tier schools, ace them, and then score well on the LSAT. But as a general proposition it is threading the needle to get into even top half T1 schools from mediocre to bad undergrad institutions.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:39 pm to Futures Bleak
Saul Goodmans degree was from American Samoa.
University don't mean shite.
University don't mean shite.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:53 pm to MSTiger33
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. I do tax, trust and estates work for clients that have federal estate tax exposure. I have been in this area for about 8 years.
Getting my LLM to do this in the future. Where'd you get your LLM?
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:57 pm to TheOcean
I think he said he got it at Villanova. Or maybe that was a different guy.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:00 pm to SabiDojo
LLM in tax or t&e?
Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:01 pm to TheOcean
I don't know.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 5:38 pm to Pettifogger
Look at this potential data
USC: 3.5 GPA or higher
LSAT: 170-180
Black male from New Orleans
Posted on 10/13/15 at 5:46 pm to Futures Bleak
Law school rankings matter when one is trying to get a job in the legal field away from where he went to school. Locally, rankings don't matter at all. It's all about alumni connections and networking. However, once one leaves that geographic sphere of influence for their school, how that school is ranked can affect the perception of how well prepared one is for the job they are interviewing for.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 5:47 pm to stewie
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Who's taking home more money in a 20 year span? One with a $75-90k salary with no debt or one with $160k salary but holds $250k debt?
I'd guess the bold, If you know anything about how debt repayment works under the Federal programs.
This post was edited on 10/13/15 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 10/13/15 at 7:09 pm to SabiDojo
LLM in tax and certificate in estate planning from villanova
Posted on 10/13/15 at 7:18 pm to MSTiger33
That's what I thought. 
Posted on 10/13/15 at 7:21 pm to Futures Bleak
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Look at this potential data
USC: 3.5 GPA or higher
LSAT: 170-180
Black male from New Orleans
Haha, you immediately become dean of the law school of your choosing
Posted on 10/13/15 at 7:22 pm to Futures Bleak
Black male from New Orleans with a 170 LSAT could probably take a shite on the application and get into Harvard, imo.
Just to be safe tell them you're not sure about your sexual orientation.
Just to be safe tell them you're not sure about your sexual orientation.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 7:23 pm to Pettifogger
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Pettifogger
m'bruhPosted on 10/13/15 at 8:25 pm to MSTiger33
Did the cert in estate planning help you out? I'm at a tax program trying to jump into estate work
Posted on 10/13/15 at 8:26 pm to Futures Bleak
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LSAT: 170-180
Get back to us when you actually crack 170 on the LSAT
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