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re: Decline of the African American family - article

Posted on 3/30/14 at 11:12 am to
Posted by Palmetto08
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/30/14 at 11:12 am to
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Well lay some knowledge on us? you seem to have this figured out.



I haven't figured it out. I'm saying the issue needs to be discussed and our country better figure it out or it's going to get worse.

And here's some knowledge from the article:



• In 2005, Black people accounted for 13% of the total U.S. population yet they were the victims of 49% of all the nation's murders; and 93% of black murder victims were killed by other black people.

• Less than half of black students graduated from high school in 2005.

• In 2009, 73% of black children were born to unmarried mothers.

• In 2012, blacks in New York constituted 78% of shooting suspects and 74% of all shooting victims even though they are less than 23% of the city’s population. Young black men in New York are 36 times more likely to be murdered than young white men.

• Today, black males between the ages of 14 and 17 commit homicide at ten times the rate of white and Hispanic males of the same age combined.

• In many urban areas, the black illegitimacy rate is well over 80 percent.

• The national unemployment rate for blacks is over 13%, nearly five points above the average for all Americans. And black teen unemployment is over 40 %.


Are you ok with these numbers? Think they'll improve? What can be done to reverse the trend?
This post was edited on 3/30/14 at 11:15 am
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
47720 posts
Posted on 3/30/14 at 11:14 am to
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50+ years of white guilt liberalism and the Democratic Party.


LBJ is a big reason, fricking and popping out kids for profit is the dumbest thing ever.
Posted by T
Member since Jan 2004
9889 posts
Posted on 3/30/14 at 11:14 am to
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we must stand up and speak facts


That's political suicide for any public figure. You're an automatic racist if you do bring it up.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79143 posts
Posted on 3/30/14 at 11:33 am to
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That's political suicide for any public figure. You're an automatic racist if you do bring it up.



Thanks to white people, mostly. "I can't be racist if I'm calling another white guy a racist!"
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131319 posts
Posted on 3/30/14 at 11:38 am to
I would say the ball is firmly in Lakeboy7's court.

Posted by pardonmeitsme
Dunwoody, GA
Member since Feb 2014
75 posts
Posted on 3/30/14 at 11:39 am to
This is what happens when a vast majority of a single autonomous group gets their marching orders from the Democrats.
Posted by BayouBandit24
Member since Aug 2010
16555 posts
Posted on 3/30/14 at 11:47 am to
Those numbers all relate to the disproportionate amount of blacks that are poor. They aren't inherently more violent or unintelligent.

It's a terrible cycle that's hard to find a solution. It's hard to blame the people, but without personal responsibility nothing will change. It's almost unfixable.

The difference really is only skin color.

This post was edited on 3/30/14 at 11:48 am
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32398 posts
Posted on 3/30/14 at 11:49 am to
It isn't a race issue, it's a culture issue. Find a random black person in Europe and they have a completely different culture than American blacks.
Posted by Buddy Garrity
Member since Mar 2013
4224 posts
Posted on 3/30/14 at 11:50 am to
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Byproducts of the war on drugs and the war on poverty. Both are failures.

:kige:
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
47720 posts
Posted on 3/30/14 at 11:52 am to
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It isn't a race issue, it's a culture issue. Find a random black person in Europe



quote:

African American family



Not the same thing obviously.
Posted by BayouBandit24
Member since Aug 2010
16555 posts
Posted on 3/30/14 at 11:54 am to
It's a culture of poverty. Poor white people listen to the same music, have the same tattoos, get arrested for the same crimes etc
Posted by recruitnik
Campus
Member since Jul 2012
1223 posts
Posted on 3/30/14 at 11:55 am to
The problem with the way this is discussed is in your pulled quote.

quote:

if we are ever to focus on children who, for no fault of their own


Yet when you impose "help" by threat of punishment (taking benefits, subsidies, etc away) you have a direct, adverse affect on those same children.

If that cannot be understood first, the conversation cannot take place.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
47720 posts
Posted on 3/30/14 at 11:56 am to
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Poor white people listen to the same music,


Depends on where they live.

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have the same tattoos


Not really

quote:

get arrested for the same crimes


Wrong, violent crime arrest rates are much different. Drugs would be something in common just different types. Whites would be more Meth and pharma.
Posted by Buddy Garrity
Member since Mar 2013
4224 posts
Posted on 3/30/14 at 11:57 am to
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Poor white people listen to the same music
So do rich suburban white kids. They aren't shooting shite up and selling crack.

quote:

get arrested for the same crimes
Not at the same rate.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260171 posts
Posted on 3/30/14 at 11:58 am to
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Yet when you impose "help" by threat of punishment (taking benefits, subsidies, etc away) you have a direct, adverse affect on those same children.



So, you're assumption is that these people are incapable of earning a decent wage on their own through cognitive or physical limitations?

The system is built to be a poverty trap. It's a widely accepted social term. The solution to poverty isn't through entitlements, which creates the trap. It's through investment that creates employment.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32398 posts
Posted on 3/30/14 at 11:58 am to
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African American


Isn't a race. My point was to people claiming that it is a race issue. It isn't a race issue, the color of one's skin doesn't make one act in a certain manner. Blacks in Europe and blacks here are the same race, their cultures are what differ, which is my point.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28426 posts
Posted on 3/30/14 at 11:59 am to
Free birth control would go a long, long way, specifically the implants.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260171 posts
Posted on 3/30/14 at 12:00 pm to
quote:


Free birth control would go a long, long way, specifically the implants.


Most poor people have access to free, or dirt cheap birth control.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
47720 posts
Posted on 3/30/14 at 12:00 pm to
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you have a direct, adverse affect on those same children.


Cap the # of kids the taxpayers support at 3 and you would see some people at least attempting to be more responsible. Since most of these "dads" aren't pulling their weight in society and living off the government tit also how about we cut their subsidies and give it to the kid then the drain on the public is a net 0.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
47720 posts
Posted on 3/30/14 at 12:01 pm to
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Free birth control would go a long, long way, specifically the implants.


Free birth control is fricking everywhere.
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