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Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:45 am to fr33manator
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I've been a proponent of bringing back hanging for a long time.
We know.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:46 am to Napoleon
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I agree, I do not think it should be humane
I think you misunderstood - hanging is VERY humane. More humane than lethal injection, if done properly. We're chaing our tails for no good reason.
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I would be fine with stabbing an artery and letting them bleed out, or just drowning them.
I'm not known as a bleeding heart (pardon the pun) liberal, but I balk at this. At some point, we have to elevate our selves above this. But, a proper firing squad or hanging is quite cost effective, efficient and humane. Electrocution isn't bad, but the reputation of the machines probably dooms this method. Gas is the most terrifying, but I think this is more trouble than it is worth, with the handling of the toxins, executioner's safety as well as safety of those maintaining the gas chamber, and so forth.
Hell, give the condemned a choice: "Hanging or firing squad" - that's a choice not normally afforded to the victims of capital offences - that's hella humane.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:47 am to Ace Midnight
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This post was edited on 3/7/16 at 8:05 pm
Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:49 am to Ace Midnight
quote:Several states still do that, like Utah. Lethal injection is the 3rd choice.
Hell, give the condemned a choice: "Hanging or firing squad" -
Hanging done wrong leads to death by asphyxia and/or decapitation.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:49 am to Napoleon
Inb4 "stop abusing police power and arresting people for bullshite and you wouldn't have this problem"
I say just so you kill em, I don't particularly care how.
I say just so you kill em, I don't particularly care how.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:49 am to Napoleon
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Shooting you have to make someone a killer
I think you're doing some mental gymnastics here - what is the difference between the marksman, hangman, headsman, switch thower, pellet dropper or the heroin injector (in your scenario)?
I don't see it.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:50 am to Napoleon
Or the state shouldn't have the ability to kill it's own citizens.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:51 am to Count Chocula
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Hanging done wrong leads to death by asphyxia and/or decapitation.
I talked about that - so I said err on the side of caution.
Traumatic decapitation during a hanging is no more painful (or less humane) than a proper drop. Maybe more traumatic to observers, but, again, that can be a positive effect on soceity.
"Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time."
This post was edited on 10/30/15 at 10:52 am
Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:52 am to Ace Midnight
Guillotine is a better psychological deterrent. Apparently your neck turns into a guyser of blood after the head is removed.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:53 am to Artie Rome
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I was just thinking it's a use of the drugs in police custody already.
You really think that's a selling point?
Yes. The whole point is the maker of one of the primary lethal injection drugs, stopped making the drug, meanwhile there is a drug that can kill people without pain, a no brainer it seems.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:53 am to StrongBackWeakMind
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No love for the guillotine?
Meh. More of a maintenance thing. Hanging is no more complicated, mechanically. But, somebody has to clean and maintain that guillotine blade. You can skip that with hanging by just using a fresh rope when it starts to fray.
This post was edited on 10/30/15 at 10:54 am
Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:54 am to Napoleon
Yep, I've found that heroin is the answer to most of life's problems.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:55 am to Ace Midnight
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Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:56 am to Brosef Stalin
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Guillotine is a better psychological deterrent. Apparently your neck turns into a guyser of blood after the head is removed.
I can see this - and certainly why it was used in France. But the impression will be of tyranny and oppression, IMHO.
Although it will be rare, decapitation will happen with my hanging scenario.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:56 am to Ace Midnight
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Traumatic decapitation during a hanging is no more painful (or less humane) than a proper drop. Maybe more traumatic to observers, but, again, that can be a positive effect on soceity.
While true, seemed to have no effect on the Iraqi bad guys when they misjudged the drop on Saddam's brother and he was decapitated. Saw that on u-tube, pretty nasty.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:56 am to Napoleon
Honestly the most humane way of killing someone is nitrogen gas. They get light headed, pass out, die of asphyxiation. They don't know the difference because the majority of actual air is nitrogen.
Eta- I have zero faith in the justice system anymore, so I am against the death penalty overall.
Eta- I have zero faith in the justice system anymore, so I am against the death penalty overall.
This post was edited on 10/30/15 at 10:58 am
Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:58 am to Napoleon
The death penalty is a barbaric form of "justice" that needs to die out. The government shouldn't have the ability to kill its own people. Plain and simple.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:59 am to NYNolaguy1
I think the heroin idea is great. Shoot them up with 10x the normal dose and let 'em die.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:00 am to Ace Midnight
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I think you're doing some mental gymnastics here - what is the difference between the marksman, hangman, headsman, switch thower, pellet dropper or the heroin injector (in your scenario)?
I don't see it.
???
How do you not get what I said. You do know in a firing squad the standard practice is for one or more to have a gun loaded with blanks so that way none of the shooters has any idea who actually killed the condemned.
Shooting someone is a huge leap from injecting them.
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