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re: Couples who stay together "for the kids"
Posted on 12/23/15 at 11:43 pm to fightin tigers
Posted on 12/23/15 at 11:43 pm to fightin tigers
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This is the correct and only non trashy answer. Divorce is one of the trashiest things two people can do.
So, you say live in a lifeless/sexless marriage for decades because you made a bad decision at 20 and married a life that you got pregnant?
Well, getting married at 20 in this day and age is pretty damn trashy, so I'm not sure you really refuted him there much.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 11:45 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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How many marriages have failed because one spouse was gone away working all the time and the other spouse just never said anything about it? Acted like nothing was wrong.
You mean a man providing for his family? That's a man's job.
Cost many a man a marriage too. We can't win
Posted on 12/23/15 at 11:48 pm to Y.A. Tittle
I know someone married, for the first time, in his late 30s. Les than a year and he is getting a divorce.
I am not condoning divorce, but people change. 20 year olds do not know what they want. Their inability to adapt/compromise is a bigger problem than their age in itself.
I have had many people ask what my wife and I suggest for a good marriage. Our only thing is dominate and subordinate. The subordinate needs to know their role and the dominate their responsibility.
I am not condoning divorce, but people change. 20 year olds do not know what they want. Their inability to adapt/compromise is a bigger problem than their age in itself.
I have had many people ask what my wife and I suggest for a good marriage. Our only thing is dominate and subordinate. The subordinate needs to know their role and the dominate their responsibility.
This post was edited on 12/23/15 at 11:49 pm
Posted on 12/23/15 at 11:50 pm to RedRifle
Take it from a kid of divorced parents. I'd prefer a stable ignorant childhood than the back and forth of bullshite custody battles and manipulative of "who's the better parent".
If you make a child and you're unable to put their needs before your "happiness" then you shouldn't be a parent. Period. Tough pill to swallow but the truth don't give a shite about feelings.
If you make a child and you're unable to put their needs before your "happiness" then you shouldn't be a parent. Period. Tough pill to swallow but the truth don't give a shite about feelings.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 11:50 pm to fr33manator
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You mean a man providing for his family? That's a man's job.
I understand that, believe me. But how many men do you know that would just blow off what the woman THEY chose to spend their lives with thinks about their jobs? Especially if it is putting strains on the marriage. I get sometimes (most of the time) women need men by their sides more than men need women so that makes them needy/clingy. But sometimes shouldn't you actually take a step back and look at the strain your job is putting on your family?
Posted on 12/23/15 at 11:54 pm to DrunkerThanThou
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I'd prefer a stable ignorant childhood than the back and forth of bullshite custody battles and manipulative of "who's the better parent".
I think you're romanticizing a married couple. What you're really saying is you would prefer non shitty parents, their marital status doesn't factor into it.
Married parents can be just as shitty pretty easily.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 11:55 pm to DrunkerThanThou
I wish I had stayed together for the kids. I fricked up
Posted on 12/24/15 at 12:06 am to RedRifle
"For the kids" is an easy scapegoat, plain & simple.
Divorce in this day in age is brutal, predominantly on the ex-husband. Spousal support, child support, the loss of the house, etc are financially & mentally crippling. Even if the wife works, she's still getting 50% of the husband's world (when kids are involved). Unless she's skipping town & wants nothing to do with the kids-but that's as rare as finding a democrat with common sense.
Before I got married, I had a divorce attorney friend look into our situation to give me a sense of understanding of what I'd be getting in to should we ever split. HOLY S did that scare me stupid. Even with potential situtations scaled with her as the sole bread-winner & us filing a mutual divorce; I got reamed.
The only situations that favored me were alcohol/drug abuse, a "secret" family/alternate life, or mental incapacity (due to a break from reality/stress/chemical imbalance type situation) on her end.
The positive outcome on the back end of divorce for the ex-husband is a rarity. Life is not TV.
Divorce in this day in age is brutal, predominantly on the ex-husband. Spousal support, child support, the loss of the house, etc are financially & mentally crippling. Even if the wife works, she's still getting 50% of the husband's world (when kids are involved). Unless she's skipping town & wants nothing to do with the kids-but that's as rare as finding a democrat with common sense.
Before I got married, I had a divorce attorney friend look into our situation to give me a sense of understanding of what I'd be getting in to should we ever split. HOLY S did that scare me stupid. Even with potential situtations scaled with her as the sole bread-winner & us filing a mutual divorce; I got reamed.
The only situations that favored me were alcohol/drug abuse, a "secret" family/alternate life, or mental incapacity (due to a break from reality/stress/chemical imbalance type situation) on her end.
The positive outcome on the back end of divorce for the ex-husband is a rarity. Life is not TV.
Posted on 12/24/15 at 12:11 am to forever lsu30
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The only situations that favored me were alcohol/drug abuse, a "secret" family/alternate life, or mental incapacity (due to a break from reality/stress/chemical imbalance type situation) on her end.
That's why it's stupid to marry anyone who doesn't do heroin or dabble in schizophrenia.
Posted on 12/24/15 at 12:22 am to LucasP
I might agree with you given time to sober up and think about what you said but... My gut reaction is to disagree
Posted on 12/24/15 at 12:33 am to DrunkerThanThou
Fair enough man, fair enough. I guess what's important is to consider things from a different perspective regardless of whether or not you agree. Without that ability to empathize, we're no better than the Irish.
Good night.
Good night.
Posted on 12/24/15 at 12:38 am to Jcorye1
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As long as you aren't openly fighting, it's probably better. Divorce is one of the most brutal things a child can go through
This
This post was edited on 12/24/15 at 12:39 am
Posted on 12/24/15 at 12:43 am to SabiDojo
Dumb. Just very dumb. Every time someone makes a broad generalization like that, it's fricking dumb. Every single time.
Good parents are good parents regardless of what's going on. If it's a hurricane or a divorce, good parenting will get a kid through it. To say it's categorically bad in all cases is dumb.
ETA this is the first time I've ever downvoted one of your posts Sabi. And that makes me sad, but this was a dumb thing you said.
Good parents are good parents regardless of what's going on. If it's a hurricane or a divorce, good parenting will get a kid through it. To say it's categorically bad in all cases is dumb.
ETA this is the first time I've ever downvoted one of your posts Sabi. And that makes me sad, but this was a dumb thing you said.
This post was edited on 12/24/15 at 12:46 am
Posted on 12/24/15 at 5:56 am to RedRifle
My parents separated when I was 11 for a few months. Ended up back together. It didn't affect me much as I understood why my dad was sick of my mom. She can be bitchy
Posted on 12/24/15 at 6:46 am to forever lsu30
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Before I got married, I had a divorce attorney friend look into our situation to give me a sense of understanding of what I'd be getting in to should we ever split. HOLY S did that scare me stupid. Even with potential situtations scaled with her as the sole bread-winner & us filing a mutual divorce; I got reamed.
The only situations that favored me were alcohol/drug abuse, a "secret" family/alternate life, or mental incapacity (due to a break from reality/stress/chemical imbalance type situation) on her end.
Wait, what? You talked to a divorce attorney friend BEFORE you got married to "look into your situation". You where concerned about the advice he gave, but still got married to a drug abuser with a secret family who was mentally ill?
Posted on 12/24/15 at 6:54 am to RedRifle
Then she better give it up if she's putting conditions in what he can do
Posted on 12/24/15 at 6:56 am to RedRifle
Helluva post on Christmas Eve.
Posted on 12/24/15 at 7:19 am to airfernando
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Couples who stay together "for the kids"
is code word for "I dont want this bitch to take all of my money/house/property".
This post was edited on 12/24/15 at 7:21 am
Posted on 12/24/15 at 7:23 am to LucasP
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Good parents are good parents regardless of what's going on. If it's a hurricane or a divorce, good parenting will get a kid through it. To say it's categorically bad in all cases is dumb.
This. x1000000000. If you raise a sheltered and weak child, sure they'll be affected. If you raise a mature child, are civil with each other and explain to them in detail what's going on instead of dumbing it down like most adults do, your kid will be better off.
Posted on 12/24/15 at 8:12 am to RedRifle
My parents did it. My mom left a couple of months after I moved out. My dad was a jerk, and I used to beg her to leave him when I was a teenager. We always had to put on a face around family friends, and I hated it. Honestly, I resented her for a while for doing it the way she did because she could have saved us some years of misery. But, then I had kids and was later a single mom. That shite is hard. She did what she thought was best. But, yeah, staying together for the kids if you can afford not to is dumb.
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