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re: Cop shoots teen during Michigan traffic stop, lawsuit filed (possibly NSFW)
Posted on 10/17/15 at 3:57 pm to Mrtommorrow1987
Posted on 10/17/15 at 3:57 pm to Mrtommorrow1987
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Photo of cop post incident
Which one of those superficial wounds, hurriedly self-aggravated after the fact, occurred between the time the sixth and seventh bullets tore through his victim?
Or were they all self-inflicted after the fact?
It's unbelievable how the OT hates on your everyday douchebag, which this guy clearly is, unless they have a badge- then they are the very picture of level-headedness, critical thinking, and situational assessment.
This isn't a case of a kid "Playing a stupid game, and getting a stupid prize" it's a case of a cop playing a stupid game and giving a stupid prize.
This post was edited on 10/17/15 at 4:00 pm
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Posted on 10/17/15 at 4:08 pm to bencoleman
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Wait a second. Stupid arse cop bright lights the kid then pulls him over and murders him? The cop is a serious piece of shite and deserves every bad thing that ever happens to him
Did you actually watch the video with the sound on? Dumbass
Posted on 10/17/15 at 4:08 pm to LSUwag
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I can't for the life of me understand why so many think that they have a right to refuse lawful orders given by police during traffic stops
I don't think anyone said that. You do know that people can be against unlawful behavior AND against abuse of power by cops at the same time.
Posted on 10/17/15 at 4:11 pm to dualed
This is why you always treat cops like criminals.
Just comply, do what they say, and don't be a hero. Want to be a hero? Don't be surprised when you get shot for not doing what they say. Be happy to walk away alive... Or not.
Just comply, do what they say, and don't be a hero. Want to be a hero? Don't be surprised when you get shot for not doing what they say. Be happy to walk away alive... Or not.
Posted on 10/17/15 at 4:13 pm to Bossier2323
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Cops have a license to kill whoever and whenever they want.... Deal with it!
Somebody gets it. Best thing you can do is to hopefully never make contact with them.
Posted on 10/17/15 at 4:15 pm to dualed
Stupid kid.
Posted on 10/17/15 at 4:45 pm to bencoleman
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The cop started it all. He also said that he had stopped several people for flashing their lights at him. He knew there was an issue with his lights but he continued to pull people over. I'll say it again he was using it as an excuse to pull everyone that flashed their lights at him over. the kid's actions after the stop were wrong but flashing your lights at someone shouldn't result in a death on the side of the highway. The cop is trash as is everyone in this thread defending him.
The officer may have been being a dick, but that's not a crime.
All the kid had to do was say "Here you go officer". 2 minutes of his time gone, and he drives away to live his life.
It's the same attitude I take with an idiot who wants to start a fight with me in public. I can either fight him because he's being a dick, or I can simply do what I need to to calm the situation and walk away unscathed.
The cop's dickish behavior was asking for the kid's license.
The kid's dickish behavior was resisting arrest and assaulting a police officer.
You tell me who is in the wrong here.
Posted on 10/17/15 at 5:00 pm to dcrews
quote:Again what was the cop arresting him for?
The kid's dickish behavior was resisting arrest
This post was edited on 10/17/15 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 10/17/15 at 5:02 pm to dualed
We should get rid of teens.
Posted on 10/17/15 at 5:03 pm to ManBearTiger
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(even though 7 shots seems excessive)
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At what number of shots would you say it crosses the line from self-defense to an action with malicious intent?
8? 30?
Obviously LESS than 7.
Posted on 10/17/15 at 5:12 pm to Charlie Arglist
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(even though 7 shots seems excessive)
When your life is in danger, you fire to KILL. You leave no doubt.
You don't fire once, check target, OK not neutralized, fire again, check target, nope still not neutralized...
This post was edited on 10/17/15 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 10/17/15 at 5:13 pm to Charlie Arglist
how many shots is a good number to be killed by? Just one? Maybe 3? C'mon man. If someone is attacking me and I pull a gun on them I'm not calmly calculating how many rounds I'm poppin off. I'm pulling that trigger until the threat is gone
Posted on 10/17/15 at 5:25 pm to dualed
cop should have booted the car and drove off.
Posted on 10/17/15 at 5:34 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Again what was the cop arresting him for?
sigh . .
The traffic violation he stopped him for, resisting by not complying with identifying himself.
Posted on 10/17/15 at 5:36 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Again what was the cop arresting him for?
He wasn't complying with his request when he asked him to exit the vehicle.
I'm not saying the officer wasn't being a dick for pulling him over. But at that point, the kid wanted to be a youtube star, and started blatantly ignoring what the officer was asking and telling him to do.
I've been pulled over for supposedly breaking traffic laws that I felt I hadn't broke. That doesn't mean I should act like an idiot and refuse the officers requests.
I hand over my info, do what he tells me and guess what? I'm done in 2-3 minutes and I haven't been shot once.
It's a simple remedy. Not sure why everyone condones being an idiot when police officers are involved
Posted on 10/17/15 at 5:49 pm to dualed
The cop admits that 2 other people made the same mistake. Why stop the kid? The kid was unarmed and the cop knew it. He is guilty of first degree murder.
Posted on 10/17/15 at 6:59 pm to rickyh
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He is guilty of first degree murder.
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In most states, first-degree murder is defined as an unlawful killing that is both willful and premeditated, meaning that it was committed after planning or "lying in wait" for the victim.
Do you honestly believe the cop was driving around looking for someone to murder?
Posted on 10/17/15 at 7:01 pm to dualed
Cop should be hanged drawn and quartered
Posted on 10/17/15 at 7:14 pm to dualed
Pretty simple cause and effect explanation here.
Cause: teen flashes headlights at cop, thinking he has brights on. Flashing lights in Michigan is a traffic offense.
Effect: cop proceeds to pull kid over.
Cause: teen refuses orders from uniformed police officer upon cop asking for license and registration. Teen asks for cop's badge number and is steadily being a dick and trying to film the whole exchange for YouTube.
Effect: cop gets agitated, although gives teen plenty more chances to follow his orders.
Cause: teen continues to completely ignore officer's requests. Teen threatens cop that he is recording the exchange and continues arguing with cop about badge number.
Effect: growing more and more agitated with the teen's complete non-compliance, cop says that he too is recording the exchange and has nothing to worry about, proceeds to request teen step out of the vehicle.
Cause: teen refuses to step out of the vehicle
Effect: cop proceeds to attempt physical removal of teen for apprehension
Cause: teen continues to resist physical arrest while remaining seated in vehicle
Effect: cop finally coerces teen out of vehicle by threatening with taser pointed at teen. Requests teen lay on the ground with arms out to side, as most cops do when a search for weapons pre-apprehension is imminent.
Cause: teen refuses to comply, several times, by ignoring officer's repeated commands. Teen finally lays on the ground but will not spread arms to be searched.
Effect: cop moves in to make apprehension
Cause: teen lunges at officer as officer draws near
Effect: cop tases teen (unclear if contact is made)
Cause: teen physically assaults cop for several moments, it's not 100% clear what is happening other than several seconds of officer struggling to control teen
Effect: officer shoots teen, fearing for his life.
I know that's TL;DR for most on here, but it spells out exactly who's at fault in this situation. Every move the officer made (the effect) was because of the teenagers actions leading up to that point. The officer said himself that had the kid cooperated in any manner, it wouldn't have resulted in anything other than a warning.
Cause: teen flashes headlights at cop, thinking he has brights on. Flashing lights in Michigan is a traffic offense.
Effect: cop proceeds to pull kid over.
Cause: teen refuses orders from uniformed police officer upon cop asking for license and registration. Teen asks for cop's badge number and is steadily being a dick and trying to film the whole exchange for YouTube.
Effect: cop gets agitated, although gives teen plenty more chances to follow his orders.
Cause: teen continues to completely ignore officer's requests. Teen threatens cop that he is recording the exchange and continues arguing with cop about badge number.
Effect: growing more and more agitated with the teen's complete non-compliance, cop says that he too is recording the exchange and has nothing to worry about, proceeds to request teen step out of the vehicle.
Cause: teen refuses to step out of the vehicle
Effect: cop proceeds to attempt physical removal of teen for apprehension
Cause: teen continues to resist physical arrest while remaining seated in vehicle
Effect: cop finally coerces teen out of vehicle by threatening with taser pointed at teen. Requests teen lay on the ground with arms out to side, as most cops do when a search for weapons pre-apprehension is imminent.
Cause: teen refuses to comply, several times, by ignoring officer's repeated commands. Teen finally lays on the ground but will not spread arms to be searched.
Effect: cop moves in to make apprehension
Cause: teen lunges at officer as officer draws near
Effect: cop tases teen (unclear if contact is made)
Cause: teen physically assaults cop for several moments, it's not 100% clear what is happening other than several seconds of officer struggling to control teen
Effect: officer shoots teen, fearing for his life.
I know that's TL;DR for most on here, but it spells out exactly who's at fault in this situation. Every move the officer made (the effect) was because of the teenagers actions leading up to that point. The officer said himself that had the kid cooperated in any manner, it wouldn't have resulted in anything other than a warning.
Posted on 10/17/15 at 9:54 pm to dcrews
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You tell me who is in the wrong here.
It is possible for both to be wrong
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