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re: Cop shoots teen during Michigan traffic stop, lawsuit filed (possibly NSFW)

Posted on 10/17/15 at 12:24 pm to
Posted by Gator5220
Member since Aug 2010
3132 posts
Posted on 10/17/15 at 12:24 pm to
quote:


That's not everything I said. I'm obviously not untrained in combatives like the cop so my opinion in the situation is invalid.


Then stop second guessing the cop's actions.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 10/17/15 at 12:25 pm to
What do you all think would happen if a teen charged at another teen in a fight? Justifiable to shoot him to death? Right.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 10/17/15 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

Then stop second guessing the cop's actions.


I can second guess whoever the hell I want. The cop shouldn't have been a cop and should not have shot the teen 7 times.
Posted by GAFF
Georgia
Member since Aug 2010
2450 posts
Posted on 10/17/15 at 12:30 pm to
The kid wasn't killed over bright lights. He was stopped for that reason. He was killed because he assaulted an officer AFTER choosing to not be compliant with a lawful request. If people would stop pretending they have a law degree after watching a couple of youtube videos and reading google this shite wouldn't happen as much. If you have a problem with the lights on a cruiser, comply with the officer then afterwards file a compliant. If you think you're being treated unlawfully, COMPLY, then afterwards file a complaint. Let the judiciary system in this country do it's job. On both sides.
Posted by munchman
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
10323 posts
Posted on 10/17/15 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

I can second guess whoever the hell I want. The cop shouldn't have been a cop and should not have shot the teen 7 times.




You are a special kind of ignorant.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 10/17/15 at 12:35 pm to
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He's a bitch who couldn't handle a teenager. Which brings me back to why he didn't just wait for backup.


This kid is also a teenager...
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 10/17/15 at 12:36 pm to
quote:





You are a special kind of ignorant.




As are your parents
Posted by BulldogNation
Alabama
Member since Nov 2014
401 posts
Posted on 10/17/15 at 12:41 pm to
Not sure who the trolls are in this thread.
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32456 posts
Posted on 10/17/15 at 12:49 pm to
You
Are
A
Stupid
fricker
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
11737 posts
Posted on 10/17/15 at 12:49 pm to
I love all you cop hatin frickers could been avoided,if that smart-arse kid would a just complied cop was more than patient
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
15913 posts
Posted on 10/17/15 at 12:51 pm to
Comply or Die, that's the new motto for some police these days.

And some of you jackasses defend them for it.
Posted by Who Me
Ascension
Member since Aug 2011
7090 posts
Posted on 10/17/15 at 12:52 pm to
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What do you all think would happen if a teen charged at another teen in a fight? Justifiable to shoot him to death? Right.


Except he isn't charging another teen. He is attacking a police officer who is attempting to arrest him. Not a school yard fight. So you think that the kid is incapable of inflicting serious bodily harm to the officer?
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 10/17/15 at 1:04 pm to
Still think they need to fire 3/4 of the cops serving and then take the money saved and double the pay for all good cops. Hopefully would attract better human beings to the profession and not cops who feel the need to whip out their dick because someone tries to let them know that they had their bright lights on.

Kid was still in the wrong and should have obeyed the officer's commands. They did seem like lawful commands under the circumstances. Problems arise when cops start giving unlawful orders and shoot you for rightfully refusing. Didn't seem to be the case here.

I didn't see the attack on the officer so I'll assume it actually happened and the cop was justified at that point. But at some point one of 2 things will happen. We will figure out that the death penalty isn't warranted on such meaningless crimes or citizens will begin shooting cops in self defense at a higher rate figuring it's better to be alive and fight it out in court as to whether it was self defense or not instead of being dead.
Posted by jack6294
Greater Baton Rouge Area
Member since Jan 2007
4033 posts
Posted on 10/17/15 at 1:05 pm to
Police are out of control
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
13860 posts
Posted on 10/17/15 at 1:08 pm to
They are suing? Lol..shows what type of trash raised the kid. Why the frick would you sue? Its not going to bring him back.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 10/17/15 at 1:17 pm to
Kid was too blinded by the chance to become a YouTube celebrity that he didn't realize he was putting his life in danger.
Posted by Charlie Arglist
Wichita, Kansas
Member since Nov 2012
5550 posts
Posted on 10/17/15 at 1:21 pm to
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or he had the dims adjusted too high on purpose.



ETA: While I believe it is legitimate probable cause to be stopped for leaving your bright lights on (sign of impairment), I don't see how "flashing" your bright lights quickly should rise to the same level. Especially when the cop admits that there is an issue with his lights and has previously pulled over other vehicles for "flashing" him. Dick move by the cop trying to look for reason to pull people over.

That being said, I believe cop had right to defend himself by using deadly force (even though 7 shots seems excessive) CLEAR AS MUD!

ETA: Answered my own query.

The parents are claiming that it was an “unlawful stop” to begin with, but in fact it is illegal in Michigan to flash your high beams at another driver within 500 feet. It’s a civil infraction that carries a 2-point penalty on your license so yes, you can be pulled over for it.
This post was edited on 10/17/15 at 1:37 pm
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18986 posts
Posted on 10/17/15 at 1:24 pm to
Yeah a cop goes instigates a fight and kills a kid. Just another day at the office.
Posted by sullivanct19a
Florida
Member since Oct 2015
5239 posts
Posted on 10/17/15 at 1:26 pm to
Kid was 100% wrong here.

Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
7647 posts
Posted on 10/17/15 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

You seriously compared reacting to contact from bullets flying at you to this situation. Way to go, average Joe


yea, getting attacked by the person you're trying to arrest is stress free, would and should never cause impulsive reactions. Totally un comparable
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