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re: Cecil the lion's killer revealed as American dentist
Posted on 7/29/15 at 7:43 am to FalseProphet
Posted on 7/29/15 at 7:43 am to FalseProphet
Interesting way of saying yes lnchbox you didn't say that.
And props to you outraged people that downvote every last post of mine, regardless of what is said. It's about as useful as your phony outrage over this lion.
And props to you outraged people that downvote every last post of mine, regardless of what is said. It's about as useful as your phony outrage over this lion.
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 7:47 am
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 7:43 am to GetCocky11
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I just wanted to say that I'm shocked that this has gone 40 pages.
You have to be kidding, right? This is the perfect setup for people to be offended.
None of these people complaining in here give two rat's asses about that damn lion.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 8:04 am to MrLarson
My wife and I visited South Africa and then Zimbabwe last year. We went on a "lion encounter" where we were able to take a stroll with a juvenile lioness. I encourage anyone interested to take a look at their website. We went for fun and to be able to pet a lion, but what I learned was that the lion population has dwindled to the point that they are actively trying to raise cubs and reintroduce them into the wild. The whole lion encounter thing is a way for them to help fund the project. The concept of culling big game for conservation efforts may be true in some areas, but I have a hard time believing it to be true in an occurrence such as this.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 8:10 am to pongze
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The concept of culling big game for conservation efforts may be true in some areas, but I have a hard time believing it to be true in an occurrence such as this.
This is the entire issue. You have people, both in this thread and all over the world, acting like this was a legitimate big game hunt when it was nothing more than poaching.
But that's not going to stop people from saying "Look what happened to Cecil, big game hunts are bad."
Posted on 7/29/15 at 8:12 am to LNCHBOX
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will have forgotten their outrage next week.
You sure about that? Keep your credit card handy the dentist will have a gofundme site in a couple of months.
Oh and if he was married:
Wife: Honey how much is this lion killing thingy gonna cost?
Dentist: Bout 15k love of my life
Wife: oh ok
Posted on 7/29/15 at 8:15 am to FalseProphet
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But even if one penny goes towards conservation, killing lions is okay, right?
Read whatever things into my statement that you choose.
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 8:17 am
Posted on 7/29/15 at 8:20 am to LNCHBOX
And you've yet to provide any evidence that hunting lions is actually beneficial other than anecdotal evidence that it MAY limit poaching. This thread has gone way past this occurrence, and you never limited your statements to just this occurrence.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 8:22 am to FalseProphet
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And you've yet to provide any evidence that hunting lions is actually beneficial other than anecdotal evidence that it MAY limit poaching
You did it for me hoss. At least 3-5% of the money does directly help. Likely more.
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This thread has gone way past this occurrence, and you never limited your statements to just this occurrence.
Link? I've said repeatedly in this thread that the specific incident we are discussing does no good. If you can't read, that's a you thing.
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 8:24 am
Posted on 7/29/15 at 8:22 am to pongze
Was the tracking collar removed from the dead lion in the smiling dentist's trophy pic?
Edit - media pic is not of Cecil
Edit - media pic is not of Cecil
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 8:29 am
Posted on 7/29/15 at 8:26 am to pongze
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My wife and I visited South Africa and then Zimbabwe last year. We went on a "lion encounter" where we were able to take a stroll with a juvenile lioness. I encourage anyone interested to take a look at their website. We went for fun and to be able to pet a lion, but what I learned was that the lion population has dwindled to the point that they are actively trying to raise cubs and reintroduce them into the wild. The whole lion encounter thing is a way for them to help fund the project. The concept of culling big game for conservation efforts may be true in some areas, but I have a hard time believing it to be true in an occurrence such as this.
I was able to do something similar when I was in Tanzania, and my takeaway was that there is no "hunting" involved in big game hunting.
Lions are very lackadaisical when in their packs, to the point where our safari tour was able to just drive on up within feet of the lions, who basically just sat there. I was amazed how close we got, and how little the lions cared. They even had cubs walking around. I don't see the thrill in paying thousands of dollars to just walk up and pop a lion in the head, who isn't even hiding or trying to get away. There's no honor in it, like traditional deer or elk hunting.
I didn't know Cecil the Lion before this event, but I have been against big game hunting for some time, and it sucks to hear that big cat populations are dwindling. If you kill the pack leader for a trophy, you're ultimately killing several more in the process.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 8:26 am to LNCHBOX
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ou did it for me hoss. At least 3-5% of the money does directly help. Likely more.
And the same article said that other efforts are more beneficial. But let's keep killing lions and limit possibilities for others.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 8:27 am to LNCHBOX
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your phony outrage over this lion.
I agree with this.
I don't hunt, and would not want to stand over some poor dead animal.
I am also an advocate of conservation.
I also don't give a rat's arse about some random dentist shooting a lion.
Nor do a I give a rat's arse about a single stinkin lion.
What is troubling is the attention something like this gets while children are being kidnapped and sold into slavery in Sudan.
It's ridiculous.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 8:29 am to FalseProphet
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And the same article said that other efforts are more beneficia
While not listing a single one and giving an incredibly vague estimate that tells me it may not be the most scientific of answers.
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But let's keep killing lions and limit possibilities for others.
When done responsibly, it does help. Sorry that you can't get past this story of it being done irresponsibly.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 8:29 am to FalseProphet
Here's a passage about this prick from another article.....
He started shooting at age 5, according to a 2009 New York Times profile, and is “said to be capable of skewering a playing card from 100 yards with his compound bow.”
I will bet him a $1000 dollars and give him 100 tries and he won't even get close to hitting that playing card.
He started shooting at age 5, according to a 2009 New York Times profile, and is “said to be capable of skewering a playing card from 100 yards with his compound bow.”
I will bet him a $1000 dollars and give him 100 tries and he won't even get close to hitting that playing card.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 8:30 am to Tigertown in ATL
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What is troubling is the attention something like this gets while children are being kidnapped and sold into slavery in Sudan.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 8:30 am to LNCHBOX
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Sorry that you can't get past this story of it being done irresponsibly
I've been past that for a long time. I disagree with you that killing lions for sport provides any meaningful benefit to anyone other than the hunter.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 8:30 am to pongze
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We went on a "lion encounter" where we were able to take a stroll with a juvenile lioness
If you don't mind me asking, how much was this tour and was it popular? I think encouraging these types of sightseeing events is a great way to raise money for conservation threatened/endangered wildlife rather than killing them. It's also awesome to see an animal in its natural habitat versus a zoo.
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 8:31 am
Posted on 7/29/15 at 8:31 am to Rhino5
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If you don't mind me asking, how much was this tour and was it popular? I think encouraging these types of sightseeing events is a great way to raise money for conservation threatened/endangered wildlife rather than killing them.
Of course it would be. But we need hunters to kill lions to support conservation efforts.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 8:32 am to FalseProphet
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I disagree with you that killing lions for sport provides any meaningful benefit to anyone other than the hunter.
Well, like I have been saying the entire time. My issue was with people saying it provides zero benefit. Again, great job on reading.
There is some benefit, how much is debatable. But some is greater than zero.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 8:34 am to LNCHBOX
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There is some benefit, how much is debatable. But some is greater than zero.
Not when other efforts are much more impactful.
If I can get 5000 dollars for killing a lion now but 50000 over the course of its lifetime for letting it live, one benefit is clearly greater than the other.
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