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re: Black holes do not exist and the Big Bang Theory is wrong, claims scientist

Posted on 9/25/14 at 12:08 pm to
Posted by FT
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 12:08 pm to
This is interesting. I mean clearly there are quite a few variables and I'd want other leading thinkers on the subject to chime in with their thoughts and analysis, but so far... Gotta say, I think I'd hit it.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73143 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 12:08 pm to
this is actually a pretty significant discovery and the whole notion of black holes potentially not existing is like the least important thing about the overall finding
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 12:08 pm to
I've honestly always struggled with the concept. I've had trouble believing that during superheating and expansion of a star, it somehow compresses using less total matter than it just previously had while being more dense in the original state.
This post was edited on 9/25/14 at 12:10 pm
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 12:09 pm to
also the study isn't peer reviewed so her findings essentially mean nothing at this point
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31901 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 12:10 pm to
She didn't say black holes don't exist, she said stars dying can't form them.
Geeze learn some reading comprehension

ETA:
Okay well the article claims she DID say they can't exist, but her explanation just says stars dying can't create them
This post was edited on 9/25/14 at 12:13 pm
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 12:10 pm to
Posted by BigEdLSU
All around the south
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 12:10 pm to
Upvote
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18664 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 12:11 pm to
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Hmmm...so I guess those super massive black holes they KNOW FOR A FACT exist in the center of galaxies are just fake too.



I'm more skeptical about the article. It claims in the bullet summary that her findings say that black holes do not exist. Yet they never quote that anywhere is the narrative. In fact, they only list her explanation about her finding that star death would not lead to black hole formation.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 12:13 pm to
Article is from the daily mail bro. I doubt they even know what any of this means.



That being said, this has my attention.
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
10467 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

Recent headlines have proclaimed “Black Holes Don’t Exist!” They’re wrong. Black holes absolutely exist. We know this observationally. We know by the orbits of stars in the center of our galaxy that there is a supermassive black hole in its center. We know of binary black hole systems. We’ve found the infrared signatures of more than a million black holes. We know of stellar mass black holes, and intermediate mass black holes. We can even see a gas cloud ripped apart by the intense gravity of a black hole. And we can take images of black holes, such as the one above. Yes, Virginia, there are black holes.

So what’s with the headlines? It seems to start with a link-bait article about a new work concerning the formation of stellar mass black holes. The paper hasn’t been peer reviewed, but it is an extension of an earlier work by the same authors that has been peer reviewed. The focus of both of these papers is on the firewall paradox, specifically how Hawking radiation might affect the gravitational collapse of a star to form a black hole.


LINK
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73143 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 12:14 pm to
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Article is from the daily mail bro
there is a reason for that

they use a gossipy click bait title

and people post it to message boards

and some people freak out

and then we learn more about the actual study...and people stop freaking out
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64484 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 12:15 pm to
Seems a bit miffed that someone questioned his position.
This post was edited on 9/25/14 at 12:16 pm
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18664 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 12:15 pm to
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LINK


Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 12:15 pm to
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I was actually talk about this thread.


I mean...I considered derailing the thread by adding the line, "Now...she COULD go the route of our intrepid ID Supporters and insist that school boards stick her pet hypothesis into classrooms so that she can have equal time...you know...out of fairness so that kids can be exposed to both sides," but I passed.

Posted by UL-SabanRival
Member since May 2013
4651 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 12:16 pm to
Gotta love the guys laughing at the woman scientist.

Wasn't it a woman who proved the game show probability theory? Other scientists laughed until she proved it. Then, they crept away with their dicks in their hands.

Pics of the doctor?

Eta never mind. Would definitely hit.
This post was edited on 9/25/14 at 12:18 pm
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83929 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 12:16 pm to
YOUR NOT GOING TO SHAKE MY FAITH THESE STUDIES ARE FUNDED BY ABORSHEN GROUPS WHO JUST WANT TO TAKE JESUS AWAY FROM THE CHILDREN DONT FALL VICTIM TO BLASFEME
Posted by ChallboiMatt
Geechee land
Member since Jul 2013
570 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 12:17 pm to
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Pics of the doctor?


Come on dude, there are 3 separate post on the first page with pictures.
Posted by CockHolliday
Columbia, SC
Member since Dec 2012
4515 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 12:19 pm to
I spew Hawking radiation in her black hole
This post was edited on 9/25/14 at 12:26 pm
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26627 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 12:20 pm to
The science is settled. She must be on the payroll of Big Universe.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 12:20 pm to
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YOUR NOT GOING TO SHAKE MY FAITH THESE STUDIES ARE FUNDED BY ABORSHEN GROUPS WHO JUST WANT TO TAKE JESUS AWAY FROM THE CHILDREN DONT FALL VICTIM TO BLASFEME

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