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re: Back Surgery-Bulging Disc

Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:26 am to
Posted by tidalmouse
Whatsamotta U.
Member since Jan 2009
30706 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:26 am to


Ah I see.

The bottom bracket is where my problem is.
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Posted by Bama and Beer
Baldwin Co, AL
Member since Oct 2010
80893 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:33 am to
My neighbor how isn't maybe 40 who I have talked to and hung out with had the surgery a couple days ago.

I spoke to him on Saturday and he said he need a cig and a beer and his GF shot that shite down.

he took the neck brace off yesterday and I took my dog out last night and saw him on his porch and asked him a few questions and he answered like a 3 year old kid was. he was def on some killer pain medicines and I just walk away
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
25737 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 12:03 pm to
Most people do significantly well following a one level discectomy, especially if they are young and healthy. Why people would live in terrible pain just because they are scared of surgery doesn't make sense
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
33443 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 12:05 pm to
they try epidurals or recommend RFA?
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
33443 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 12:07 pm to
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Anytime.

But it is true. Bones don't bulge.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26640 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 12:29 pm to
Speaking from experience, tell your son to put if off as long as possible.

That said, I had a disc repair back in 2000. I put off surgery until I literally could not walk again. It was outpatient - in at 5 AM, out by 3 PM.

I still play golf and do what I want to do. Once in a while (maybe once or twice a year) my back will seize up, but usually 24 hours of resting it will get me back to normal.

I concur on the overweight part another poster mentioned. If your son is more than 20 pounds overweight, then he needs to shed the excess baggage and tone up his abs. That, more than anything else, will enable him to avoid surgery.

Best of luck to him.
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15379 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 12:38 pm to
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tell your son to put if off as long as possible.

And risk permanent nerve damage. As with anything this serious, listen to your dr's and get a few opinions.
Posted by stampman
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
4919 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 12:59 pm to
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Do yourself a favor and take him to see Dr. Kelly Scrantz in BR at the Neuromedical Center. Best neurosurgeon in the state.


Bingo! He did my wife's surgery and after numerous injections (that did absolutely no good), we had Dr. Scrantz operate! She got 100% relief from her leg pain!
Posted by CadesCove
Mounting the Woman
Member since Oct 2006
40828 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 1:17 pm to
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Wrong. I ruptured 2 discs and had back surgery over 10 years ago and my back is just fine. Running, weights, motocross, etc. No back problems whatsoever.



Holla back at meh in 5 years.
Posted by TigerATC06
Member since Feb 2012
345 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 1:34 pm to
So 15 years after you go under the knife, it all goes south?
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14964 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 1:35 pm to
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Why people would live in terrible pain just because they are scared of surgery doesn't make sense
.

There's evidence from a study I looked at recently (I'll get hold of it if you are interested in specifics. I don't know the title or the author offhand) showing that two groups of low back pain patients were taken, half were given surgery, half were given conservative treatment. At 6 months, the surgery group reported significantly less pain. I believe the next number looked at was 12 months. At that point, there was no significant difference in the number of people reporting pain in either group.
Radicular pain is probably a +1 to the surgery column, but conservative management along with weight loss, regular exercise, and PT typically has the same outcome as the surgery group.

Again, the type of pain + his age (if particularly young) point toward intervention a little, but if you were to do CT/MRI on every Tom, Dick, and Harry to walk through the door, you would find that about 1/3 of them have a bulging disc and do not have any associated pain at all, leading us to believe there's a fair chance that the disc being out of place is coincidental.

It is for all of these reasons that many (including myself) choose to delay surgery until activities of daily life are no longer bearable. Also, understanding that chronic pain is just part of some people's future is a tough thing to accept, but it is another fact of life. Reducing the pain can be done physiologically (exercise), pharmacologically (NSAIDs regularly + breakthrough stuff if it's intolerable), and surgically (including steroid injections here more so than the previous category, and only after all these treatments have failed should one consider laminectomy-like procedures, without an obvious injury/insult as the cause of the pain, though even then, conservative management has many merits (case-specific))
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39501 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 1:55 pm to
Doc, you're always on top of this and appreciate it. I've got a lingering bad back at almost 26years of age and was told by my last doctor that a majority of the people have extremely tigh hamstrings. I started stretching and working out my core and it did wonders for my back pain. It's still there depending on how I sit or lay for longer periods of time, but these helped tremendously.
Posted by GeauxTigersLee
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2010
4644 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 1:57 pm to
Avoid surgery if at all possible.

I had a L5 disc problem, that made it impossible to stand for long periods at one point. A good chiropractor and physical therapist did wonders for me. Do whatever you can from a fitness, wellness, and core strength component before going under the knife.

Didn't think I'd be able to play golf or backpack ever again, but enjoying those activities again.
This post was edited on 12/16/13 at 1:59 pm
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
85011 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 1:58 pm to
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Anytime.

But it is true. Bones don't bulge.

So when every ortho and neuro in La. indicate "bulging disc" in their diagnosis, they are either misinformed, or lying?
Posted by Meaux Bettah
Tiger Nation
Member since Nov 2011
2591 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 2:09 pm to
There are MANY factors to consider.. from a tiny hard to detect birth defect pinching spinal nerves that inflamed the disc to who knows. I had it really bad. I had numbness up and down my leg and most of my foot. My right nut felt like it was in a VICE. I got fusion surgery 17 months ago and I'm still fricked up with same issues, but just 20% less pain, mayybe. Muscle mass is fricking depressingly turning to mush. I just hope it's going to get better. I don't take meds. I can't believe surgery didn't do more.
Posted by Kajungee
South ,Section 6 Row N
Member since Mar 2004
17033 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 2:11 pm to
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The back pain is less than 20% of overall discomfort.


I wouldn't do it then. Once they cut your back, it is a downward spiral.


I fought back pain for years when I was in my 20's. condidered the surguy but never did it..

Have not had back problems in 20 years
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45050 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 2:16 pm to
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My son is needing back surgery after trying conservative procedures first. The pain is in his butt and radiates down his leg.


How old is he? Had the surgery when I was 19 but I also had a herniated disk along with a bulging. I recovered really quick.
Posted by TheZaba
FL
Member since Oct 2008
6181 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 3:00 pm to
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Hopeful Doc
Please read this OP
Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
7873 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 3:00 pm to
I would have to agree with the posters suggesting a trip to Baton Rouge. Lafayette's not a great town for neurosurgery. That said, I asked my physician friends for this same recommendation recently and all said Cormier from Neuro and Romero from Ortho.

Good Luck
Posted by G Vice
Lafayette, LA
Member since Dec 2006
12919 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 3:27 pm to
Some good surgeon recs in this thread, but I would add Alan Appley to this list.
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