re: Anyone have H. Wong for ME 3333 at LSU?

Harris Wong did seem to take pride in his class being difficult and students struggling. Not saying he wanted you to fail, but he wanted it to be tough. I will be the first to admit I was/am a terrible student in regards to homework and class attendance. But, I study on my own time very hard and am the kind of person that would hit up every single practice problem at the end of a section in the weeks leading up to an exam. I always performed pretty well on tests. Wong required you to turn in all homework assignments before the end of the semester in order to take the final. Even if you missed the due date and already had a 0. I had about half of the assignments to turn in, but had actually done all the work when studying for previous tests. So when I turned them all in during his office hours before the final, he was kind of pissed. He seemed to not like that I didn't follow his rules like they were meant to be followed, but still got pretty good grades in the class. He wanted people like me to fail. I will admit, I'm still an idiot for not just working on them when they were due. But taking fluid dynamics and living in a fraternity house didn't always lead to the best results .

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kilo,

What engineering degree do you have?

What was your GPA?

And did you go through Gonthier?

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My GPA? 4.0.

My engineering degree? None.

I have no idea who Gonthier is.

None of that is germane to the discussion. The point is that there are standards, in life in general and in everything else. Some are higher than others. Some are pretty damn difficult to meet, no doubt. But you meet the standard or you GTFO. What you DON'T do is try to drag the standard down to meet you.

Failing to meet the standard doesn't mean that you are a piece of shite. It just means that you need to either work harder or find something else to do. Not everybody is suited to do everything, despite what our society has told you.

I have teachers that purposely design tests to take longer than the alloted time. I've had plenty of tests where only 1 person out of 50 or no one finished in time. For my first fluids test, the first person didn't finish until 35 minutes after the class was over.

The thing that isn't always represented by their grade is a student's understanding of the material.

You are certainly underestimating the value of time.

I'll go further back...I had Dr. Maples in '89-ish. Now that guy was a monumental dick. I don't know Wong, but he sounds like a pussycat.

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So if you weren't in engineering, you don't know what the standards typically are for grading exams?

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Correct. I do not. I was messing with you about buildings falling down, etc.

The part I wasn't joking about is all the excuses for failure and this mentality that the standard should be changed to match the performance of those attempting to meet it. The OP was bitching about the grades not being curved. That's nonsense. Meet the standard. Problem solved.

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Try taking a few organic chemistrys

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damn, i hated those! i'm an "old guy" on here and had Gandor as the prof when i took it. organic chem was the hardest 51% i've ever worked for (ended up being a high C with the curve).
i've never understood that line of reasoning with some of the more advanced classes. i understand that some material is difficult and requires extra work, but if students can only understand/comprehend less than 50% of the material being taught then the prof should rethink their teaching methods.

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A teacher doesn't fail you unless he/she never shows up to class, doesn't explain the lessons, and never offers explanations of the things they aren't teaching.

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Rabalais

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Rabalais

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Rabalais. Oh man. He curved one of our tests 30% one time because no one knew what was going on.

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You realize that you are looking through a straw at the larger issue, don't you?

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I realize that you are not an engineer, have never gone through the curriculum, have never been an engineering teacher yourself, and have no clue what the frick you're talking about when it comes to judging engineering related academic matters.

That's what I do know.

Is he the prof that looks like he's doing splits during class? Very odd man.

I had him for non ME Materials (forgot class number) and passed. You should be good.