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re: Anybody following the migrant/refugee crisis in the EU? Insanity. OT Opinions?

Posted on 9/3/15 at 11:47 am to
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/3/15 at 11:47 am to
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It's unfair to these people to assume they won't assimilate.




Diversity
Multi-multiculturalism

These are the words of the day. Doing the traditional things that made the West great? Nope.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/3/15 at 11:47 am to
Maybe someone should take someone else's land and give it to them. I'm thinking around their traditional homeland.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11484 posts
Posted on 9/3/15 at 11:48 am to
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OT Opinions?


You cannot have a welfare state and open borders. Impossible. My opinion.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/3/15 at 11:49 am to
one part of my big thread on the OT is about why the middle east isn't being a major player in helping these immigrants relocate
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/3/15 at 11:50 am to
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I'm at a recurrent class with some members of the Turkish Air Force and we were talking about this and they said they are already extremely over burdened with the amount of refugees currently. They said they have over 2 million refugees currently in the country and the crime is outrageous (sounds familiar) and they don't have the money to deal with it. They mentioned something about getting some new military aircraft (our old crap, maybe F4s or F16s) and they want to start blowing crap up in Syria ASAP.


Who knows? Maybe this will spur many europeans to see the err of their anti-intervention policies in the ME.
Posted by zelman
Bogan Walk
Member since Feb 2015
2400 posts
Posted on 9/3/15 at 11:53 am to
Regarding Islamic extremists: Either you fight them on the beaches or you fight them in the hills. And guess what? They're already in the hills.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3016 posts
Posted on 9/3/15 at 11:56 am to
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Who hates white western culture?


Ironically, white westerners.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11484 posts
Posted on 9/3/15 at 11:58 am to
Leaders of tyrannical countries who hate freedom. Brainwashed people in those countries also.
Posted by duggieblue
GA
Member since Feb 2010
4335 posts
Posted on 9/3/15 at 12:08 pm to
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The Swedish & German citizenry are actually starting to push back and call for an end to the openness of the ruling parties to accept the refugees.


Please don't do it Iceland...may accept a bunch of them
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
21966 posts
Posted on 9/3/15 at 12:21 pm to
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This is a question that no one can answer....legit question though.



Do you ask the same question when considering the millions of Americans that came here fleeing war, religious oppression and economic stagnation?

After all, the Italians, Chinese, Irish, Polish, Germans, English, etc. could have just stuck around and made their countries better, right?

Regardless or the problems caused by mass migrations, anyone that looks at their respective situations and say, "It would be better to abandon everything I own, everything I know, pack what few belongings will fit in this suitcase and run thousands of miles away into the unknown than stay here," warrant our sympathies and any succor we can give them.

The chief problem European nations face is that their entire system of government is built upon the foundation of a largely homogeneous population with a shared history, culture, and system of values. This allows socialism to work. Once you introduce an outside element that doesn't share that same history and attitude, it falls apart.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51664 posts
Posted on 9/3/15 at 12:21 pm to
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Just curious if the citizens in Europe that are pushing back are being labeled as racists.


Yep.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84971 posts
Posted on 9/3/15 at 12:35 pm to
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Why are we nannying these people who won't assimilate into their refuge country?




We? Ok.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84971 posts
Posted on 9/3/15 at 12:40 pm to
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Just because some SJWs make a meme about it doesn't change reality.


SJWs are like the modern plague, but this is one situation that deserves attention. I think it is ridiculous to just disregard this plight as some SJW-inspired story.
Posted by retired trucker
midwest
Member since Feb 2015
5093 posts
Posted on 9/3/15 at 12:43 pm to
REFUGEES

not migrants

REFUGEES

not migrants.....stupid political correct horseshite

and yes, I did notice, I feel sorry for them....hope they get their documentation soon
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84971 posts
Posted on 9/3/15 at 12:45 pm to
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It's a pretty easy choice once you understand that eventually you are just importing future terrorists.


Oh for frick's sake, this shite is absurd. Terrorists will do what they do regardless of your country's immigration policy.

Act like a decent human being and let them in the country if they're refugees. If they don't get their act together in a few years, deport them, but give them a chance.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84971 posts
Posted on 9/3/15 at 12:46 pm to
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Let's just let hundreds of thousands of children die instead.


Muslim children right? I'm OK w/ that.



What a disgusting comment, joking or not.
Posted by fouldeliverer
Lannisport
Member since Nov 2008
13538 posts
Posted on 9/3/15 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

by purpgold718


One of the few in thread that get it.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 9/3/15 at 12:55 pm to
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Mesut Ozil is a famous German soccer player 3rd generation immigrant from Turkey and apparently speaks very poor German.



He also speaks very poor Spanish, Turkish, and English. Languages aren't his thing. Podolski also spoke poor German. There are other 2nd and 3rd generation soccer players who speak fine German.
Posted by retired trucker
midwest
Member since Feb 2015
5093 posts
Posted on 9/3/15 at 12:58 pm to
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Who hates white western culture?

Ironically, white westerners.


it's part of the brainwashing infecting the looney left

Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 9/3/15 at 12:59 pm to
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5 years max.


I'd seriously doubt any immigrant could assimilate that fast. Assimilation usually works in generations, and it'd be 20 or 30 years before that occurs, and if there are enough of them in a given area, then it won't occur at all.

A better situation for me would be a temporary situation for all the asylum speakers until the situation in Syria stabilizes. Hopefully the incentive will be for countries to go ahead and defeat ISIS and then set up pro-Western government.
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