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re: Anybody following the migrant/refugee crisis in the EU? Insanity. OT Opinions?
Posted on 9/3/15 at 1:03 pm to lsu13lsu
Posted on 9/3/15 at 1:03 pm to lsu13lsu
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Diversity
Multi-multiculturalism
These are the words of the day. Doing the traditional things that made the West great? Nope.
Do you believe the USA is the greatest country in the world?
How do you think we got this way? The line chart below illustrates the percentage of the US population that were immigrants in each decade. The bar chart illustrates the raw numbers.
Unless you're 100% Native American, you owe your existence in this country to our immigration policies.
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Posted on 9/3/15 at 1:03 pm to crazy4lsu
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I'd seriously doubt any immigrant could assimilate that fast. Assimilation usually works in generations, and it'd be 20 or 30 years before that occurs, and if there are enough of them in a given area, then it won't occur at all.
Yes, people that say immigrants assimilate quickly have apparently never visited a major US city and go to Chinatown, Germantown, Greektown, Little Russia, Little Italy, Little Jerusalem, etc. Immigrants typically live in enclaves the first and second generation, then their children and grandchildren venture out. Assimilation is a slow process.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 1:07 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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Yes, people that say immigrants assimilate quickly have apparently never visited a major US city and go to Chinatown, Germantown, Greektown, Little Russia, Little Italy, Little Jerusalem, etc. Immigrants typically live in enclaves the first and second generation, then their children and grandchildren venture out. Assimilation is a slow process.
Yes this is reality. If you put a 5 year cap on it, you might as well assume they aren't going to assimilate. It's very difficult to change habits and cultural norms in a five year period.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 1:33 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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Immigrants typically live in enclaves the first and second generation, then their children and grandchildren venture out. Assimilation is a slow process.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 2:08 pm to crazy4lsu
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Yes this is reality. If you put a 5 year cap on it, you might as well assume they aren't going to assimilate. It's very difficult to change habits and cultural norms in a five year period.
Doesn't matter you have to put a cap on it and start somewhere. If you set stricter rules they will either follow it or they won't and if they don't then deport. When you move to a new country you should have to be able to pass a test in the written language of that country in the first year before you're even allowed to stay. At a minimum they should be forced into a night school for learning the language. I don't want my tax dollars going to support lazy fricking Americans much less lazy migrants.
This post was edited on 9/3/15 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 9/3/15 at 2:14 pm to Shaqstrodamus
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Doesn't matter you have to put a cap on it and start somewhere. If you set stricter rules they will either follow it or they won't and if they don't then deport.
Well the rules as designed are going to lead to deportations, so why even ask them to do it if you have no intention for them to stay? Just say you can stay here for 5 years before you move and be done with it. It's incredibly hard to learn another language as an adult.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 2:18 pm to GetCocky11
We may have an immigration issue here in the states but it's nowhere near as bad as this shite show.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 2:19 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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Yes, people that say immigrants assimilate quickly have apparently never visited a major US city and go to Chinatown, Germantown, Greektown, Little Russia, Little Italy, Little Jerusalem, etc. Immigrants typically live in enclaves the first and second generation, then their children and grandchildren venture out. Assimilation is a slow process.
Assimilation takes generations.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:47 pm to crazy4lsu
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Well the rules as designed are going to lead to deportations, so why even ask them to do it if you have no intention for them to stay? Just say you can stay here for 5 years before you move and be done with it. It's incredibly hard to learn another language as an adult.
There is intent for them to stay if they meet the regulations of assimilation, you can't just move to a country and expect to be a mooch and give the excuse of I'm not going to do it because it's hard. If you move to a society for a better life, it is a reasonable expectation that something is given back to the society for offering that better life.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 5:03 pm to crazy4lsu
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Hopefully the incentive will be for countries to go ahead and defeat ISIS and then set up pro-Western government.
Yeah, but western military intervention is what caused the power vacuum that ISIS is filling. Destroy ISIS, something else will pop up. It's a good lesson in not destabilizing regions needlessly.
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