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re: Accident with a car with no headlights - whose at fault?
Posted on 2/20/17 at 8:14 pm to TigerTalker142
Posted on 2/20/17 at 8:14 pm to TigerTalker142
quote:Your insurance company will look out for your interest... so long as those interest are in their interest. That is, they will only help you as much as it helps them. At some point they may decide that it is easier for them to do things one way, but that way may screw you over. Understand my point?
Because I honestly don't know, what would an attorney do for me in this situation? Aren't the 2 insurance companies going to arbitrate between themselves to decide fault and what company pays what? Would my attorney take over arbitration for the insurance company? Or just ensure I got full value for my vehicle and no rate increase from my insurance company? Neither of us have claimed medical issues as far as I know.
Just contact an attorney, give them the rundown of the events, and they'll give you an idea of what they can do for you.
My guess is that you'll probably have to file suit against the other driver to protect yourself and to get enough money out of the situation. Hell, I'd have a lawyer if only because the other driver is probably going to sue you.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 8:15 pm to TigerTalker142
i really do not know why i am being downvoted
your scenario essentially happened to me and thats how it played out - it took about a year to get my deductible refunded because of the two different insurance companies determining who is at fault - the police report will go a long way towards that, however
and lol at the goons telling you to waste money on a lawyer. my lord
your scenario essentially happened to me and thats how it played out - it took about a year to get my deductible refunded because of the two different insurance companies determining who is at fault - the police report will go a long way towards that, however
and lol at the goons telling you to waste money on a lawyer. my lord
Posted on 2/20/17 at 8:16 pm to TigerTalker142
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Accident with a car with no headlights - whose at fault?
Probably the dummy that doesn't know how to use who's and whose properly
Posted on 2/20/17 at 8:17 pm to rocket31
I didn't down vote you. I appreciate the responses.
I hope not, cause that'd be me.
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Probably the dummy that doesn't know how to use who's and whose properly
I hope not, cause that'd be me.
This post was edited on 2/20/17 at 8:18 pm
Posted on 2/20/17 at 8:18 pm to SlapahoeTribe
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My guess is that you'll probably have to file suit against the other driver to protect yourself and to get enough money out of the situation. Hell, I'd have a lawyer if only because the other driver is probably going to sue you.
not sheriff srs
Posted on 2/20/17 at 8:20 pm to TigerTalker142
It will more than likely be comparative fault which is what Louisiana uses in these scenarios. The police report is irrelevant. You can use it for leverage to your/their insurance. It helps but it is inadmissible in court.
Bottom line. It'll probably be a 60-40 split depending on whether you can "prove" his lights were off. If you can, you'll get 70-30 because you should have been able to see him regardless of his headlights being on. Not saying I would say that but that's what the other attorney/insurance will say putting you at some percentage at fault.
You're going to have to get an attorney if you want to get the best out of your situation. Insurance adjusters will be the ultimate bitch in this case.
Hope this helps.
Bottom line. It'll probably be a 60-40 split depending on whether you can "prove" his lights were off. If you can, you'll get 70-30 because you should have been able to see him regardless of his headlights being on. Not saying I would say that but that's what the other attorney/insurance will say putting you at some percentage at fault.
You're going to have to get an attorney if you want to get the best out of your situation. Insurance adjusters will be the ultimate bitch in this case.
Hope this helps.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 8:30 pm to TigerTalker142
Each insurance company will probably just take care of their own insured unless one of you gets a lawyer.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 8:32 pm to TigerTalker142
I would say he is 66 to 75% responsible for the accident in this situation. I'd put you at 25 to 33% for negotiating purposes. If the damages are big enough your attorney can get a candela expert to measure the lighting under similar conditions as the night of the accident to show how difficult it would have been to see him.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 8:34 pm to boosiebadazz
The problem is what are the odds that this doofus in the 15 year old montero has collision coverage?
I'm betting against it.
I'm betting against it.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 8:38 pm to baldona
Girlfriend had a guy back out of a parking lot into the street. He was cited by the police. His insurance still said she was partially at fault. Insurance is a sham.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 8:53 pm to TigerTalker142
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I'm just curious if anyone has any experience with this type of situation, and can shed some light on Louisiana shared liability regulations and what I'm likely looking at here.
This is why you pay for insurance.
Sit back and let your insurance handle it.
No need wasting time and money hiring your own attorney.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 9:12 pm to baldona
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I mean if a drunk driver drives through a redlight they don't tell you you should of seen them.
This is a terrible analogy. In the OP, the other driver still has the right of way, regardless of headlights, speed, or Blood alcohol.
This post was edited on 2/20/17 at 10:25 pm
Posted on 2/20/17 at 9:21 pm to OysterPoBoy
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but the officer goes checks his lights and based on the condition of the filaments determines his lights were off
Thank goodness this cop paid attention in filament detection school.
hmmm, i'm gonna call BS. I don't believe this is a test that can be done roadside. The headlight is inspected by an forensic specialist, not by the officer.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 9:22 pm to rocket31
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so youll initially be responsible for your deductible BUT it will be fully refunded to you
That's only true if you file with your own insurance company and they pay to fix your car and once final investigation is done, its determined that the other party was fully liable and their insurance reimburses your insurance for what they paid you...subrogation.
But if their insurance doesn't reimburse your insurance company, you don't get your deductible back
Posted on 2/20/17 at 9:46 pm to Nativebullet
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hmmm, i'm gonna call BS. I don't believe this is a test that can be done roadside. The headlight is inspected by an forensic specialist, not by the officer.
Yea I was super worried. I thought it was gonna be a he said she said as far as if his lights were on and I was gonna be fricked. Was super surprised when the officer was able to determine that after a couple minute inspection. I looked it up online and apparently there are some tale-tell signs with regards to conditions of the filaments that are obvious indicators of if they were on and off at the time of the accident. I'm assuming the officer had prior experience with this type of stuff and I'm sure the insurance companies will independently inspect the other vehicle to determine whether that was the case as well, but a citation at the scene certainly leads credence to my case.
The other driver even came and apologized to me after he got written up, and said he didn't realize he didn't have them on. I really wish I had been recording, because that would have been pretty clutch admission of guilt.
Edit: It was also crazy as frick that he was driving with no lights. I have no idea how he could see. That area is seriously poorly illuminated.
This post was edited on 2/20/17 at 10:09 pm
Posted on 2/20/17 at 10:06 pm to rocket31
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lol at the goons telling you to waste money on a lawyer. my lord
When you don't get close to the value you want for your truck and your back is killing you in 6 months I'm going to laugh my arse off at you.
Y'all do realize that it's literally the adjuster's job to frick you over? His whole career is based on either getting you to take a crap deal, or pissing you off enough that you drop the case.
This post was edited on 2/20/17 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 2/20/17 at 10:12 pm to TigerTalker142
It will probably end up being 50/50.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 10:12 pm to TigerTalker142
I always flash my bright lights at drivers I see going around without headlights on.
i'm not sure if they ever realize that they don't have their headlights on, or they think there is a cop up ahead of them.
i'm not sure if they ever realize that they don't have their headlights on, or they think there is a cop up ahead of them.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 10:22 pm to sealawyer
My car is 2015 Passat - Wolfsburg Edition with 35000 miles. Most of the prices I'm seeing for similar models at dealerships puts it's value at somewhere around 13-15k. That's before tax, title, and license. The extent of my medical issues is a small burn on one arm from the airbag and a cut on the other arm from the airbag. Neither of which I'm planning on seeing a doctor for or claiming, as they are nothing injuries.
Short of being lowballed on the settlement by 4-5k by my insurance company and not being able to negotiate out of it, I feel like it would be difficult for me to do anything but break even were I to hire a lawyer off the bat. Assuming costs for highering one would be at least a couple grand. Do you think it would be feasible to get one for less? Or that it's likely that what I'm offered is less then the value of the car, to the extent that a lawyer is cost effective?
Short of being lowballed on the settlement by 4-5k by my insurance company and not being able to negotiate out of it, I feel like it would be difficult for me to do anything but break even were I to hire a lawyer off the bat. Assuming costs for highering one would be at least a couple grand. Do you think it would be feasible to get one for less? Or that it's likely that what I'm offered is less then the value of the car, to the extent that a lawyer is cost effective?
This post was edited on 2/20/17 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 2/20/17 at 10:41 pm to TigerTalker142
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Short of being lowballed on the settlement by 4-5k by my insurance company and not being able to negotiate out of it, I feel like it would be difficult for me to do anything but break even were I to hire a lawyer off the bat. Assuming costs for highering one would be at least a couple grand. Do you think it would be feasible to get one for less? Or that it's likely that what I'm offered is less then the value of the car, to the extent that a lawyer is cost effective?
Negotiate as high as you can on your own, and if you aren't happy with it, call a lawyer and tell him he only gets his contingency fee on amounts over that. The first lawyer you call might not take that offer, but someone will. That's what I do on pure property damage cases for existing clients.
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