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Posted on 1/16/15 at 8:45 pm to Martini
There are books other than Into Thin Air that paint a different picture. Part of the problem was that Hall and Fischer were competing to be THE guides on Everest and they ignored signs of deteriorating weather conditions. Fischer also sick and chose to climb despite this. Both of them pushed clients who should have been turned back to summit to inflate their numbers. Weather was only one of the factors that contributed to the disaster.
I suggest that those interested in Everest 1996 expand their reading past Into Thin Air to get additional perspective on that disaster.
I suggest that those interested in Everest 1996 expand their reading past Into Thin Air to get additional perspective on that disaster.
This post was edited on 1/16/15 at 8:55 pm
Posted on 1/16/15 at 8:54 pm to Sparkplug#1
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Yes, I consider that not far.
No problem. However, K2 is a good bit farther north and subject to much different and unpredictable weather patterns.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 8:55 pm to VABuckeye
There are several accounts of the 1996 events that differ from Krakauer's book. Some say that altitude sickness distorted his recollection of the disaster.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 8:59 pm to VABuckeye
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There are books other than Into Thin Air that paint a different picture. Part of the problem was that Hall and Fischer were competing to be THE guides on Everest and they ignored signs of deteriorating weather conditions. Fischer also sick and chose to climb despite this. Both of them pushed clients who should have been turned back to summit to inflate their numbers. Weather was only one of the factors that contributed to the disaster.
Well I agree with this and all of this is in that book. I read a good bit but that was written in particular about that summit because Krakauer was on the team. It was and always is many things combined to cause these disasters. Too many people on the hill, a lot of the inexperienced is always a problem.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 9:04 pm to HaveMercy
Great book!
Posted on 1/16/15 at 9:06 pm to TigerSTPelurker
There are a couple of TV shows on Amazon Prime Instant video about Everest that are interesting.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 9:09 pm to TigerRob20
No, only a few handwritten notes are in this book documenting their provisions (mostly oxygen tanks) and a map of their route, (the North Col) which is the most treacherous. Everybody who attempts summiting nowadays goes the South route.
This is a very remote region where there are no roads and helicopter access is almost nonexistent. It takes 3 months to get acclimated to the altitude and get to base camp at 19K feet.
This is a very remote region where there are no roads and helicopter access is almost nonexistent. It takes 3 months to get acclimated to the altitude and get to base camp at 19K feet.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 9:10 pm to JoePepitone
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Posted by Message JoePepitone 200 dead people on Mount Everest There are several accounts of the 1996 events that differ from Krakauer's book. Some say that altitude sickness distorted his recollection of the disaster.
He did take some heat for parts of it. But regardless these are commercial ventures that do compete for dollars. And that in itself leads to risk.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 9:11 pm to VABuckeye
I really thought it was closer than that. 
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Posted on 1/16/15 at 9:19 pm to VABuckeye
Annapurna. Beautiful
Posted on 1/16/15 at 9:19 pm to Martini
The people who were there at the time and managed to survive are still at odds over what really took place. All of them were suffering from fatigue, lack of nutrition, altitude sickness, panic, etc. The facts will likely never be known.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 10:08 pm to Broke
Wow, that video is a trip. You see the bodies way off the trail and you wonder...was it a misstep, a sprained ankle, a bad cramp, did weather hit and visibility go bad leading them to go off trail and fall.......
The worst would be a bad cramp, climbing Everest, and die from a Charlie horse, shite
The worst would be a bad cramp, climbing Everest, and die from a Charlie horse, shite
This post was edited on 1/16/15 at 10:09 pm
Posted on 1/16/15 at 10:12 pm to Old Sarge
It's altitude. You can't eat, you can't sleep and you're driven to go up.
Getting up is easier than getting down and finding your way down isn't easy. These are huge mountains. Except for particular landmarks there is no trail and everything disappears if a storm hits.
Getting up is easier than getting down and finding your way down isn't easy. These are huge mountains. Except for particular landmarks there is no trail and everything disappears if a storm hits.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 10:16 pm to Broke
quote:Polar bears gotta eat.
Why don't somebody go get em?
Posted on 1/16/15 at 10:38 pm to Geauxtiga
if you were that hardcore about climbing a mountain and didn't survive, I imagine most would want to stay up there. What better place to be your final resting place if your that much an outdoorsman.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 10:44 pm to Martini
The Climb by Fischer guide Anatolli Bookreev is almost a direct rebuttal to Krakauer. Krakauer's book got the most attention bc it was first and he is a damn good writer. Into the Wild is a must read. Sometimes he comes off like a douche ie his book about Pat Tillman...
Posted on 1/16/15 at 10:59 pm to Broke
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Why don't somebody go get em?
Does it look even remotely possible under such conditions:
Posted on 1/16/15 at 11:21 pm to Swoopin
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If someone wants to go get them, great, but no one should be expected to. And if someone wants to go get them and dies up there, well there you go.
great point
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