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re: 200 dead people on Mount Everest
Posted on 1/16/15 at 6:30 pm to JoePepitone
Posted on 1/16/15 at 6:30 pm to JoePepitone
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Yeah - there are several Himalayan peaks tougher than Everest. They used to say K2 was the worst but I think they've figured out a few routes that have tamed it somewhat. Everest is the tallest so it remains the grand prize.
Nope. A climber still has to go through he bottleneck and past that hanging serac on K2. It's anything but tamed.
Kangchenjunga, Annapurna, Nanga Parbat would also be considered in the deadliest category.
Gasherbrum IV would as well but so few have climbed it or attempted to climb it that it doesn't make the list. It's generally considered as the only mountain harder to climb than K2.
This post was edited on 1/16/15 at 6:33 pm
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Posted on 1/16/15 at 6:31 pm to jdd48
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. I don't believe it's ever had a solo winter ascent.
Guy just did it this week.
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Think he's still stuck at base camp because off high winds though. The descent is the most dangerous part. Denali is much larger than Everest (base to summit) but isn't higher.
This post was edited on 1/16/15 at 6:35 pm
Posted on 1/16/15 at 6:32 pm to Navytiger74
Posted on 1/16/15 at 6:34 pm to Broke
You've not seen this before?
Posted on 1/16/15 at 6:35 pm to jdd48
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Denali is much tougher than Everest. Not as many bodies because not near as many have attempted it. I don't believe it's ever had a solo winter ascent.
Denial is not really technical either. The problems there are that the weather is horrific. It's so big it has its own weather. It's also more of an actual climb. You don't begin your climb at 17000 feet.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 6:37 pm to ninthward
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1 in 5 die on Everest
Not even close. The death rate on Everest is very low now. It's not like K2 or Annapurna, which are far more dangerous.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 6:39 pm to VABuckeye
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Denial is not really technical either. The problems there are that the weather is horrific. It's so big it has its own weather. It's also more of an actual climb. You don't begin your climb at 17000 feet.
Denali is a massive mountain. It's unbelievable how large it is. Mt. St. Elias is as well (below)
This post was edited on 1/16/15 at 6:40 pm
Posted on 1/16/15 at 6:40 pm to Broke
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I'm amazed at how perfectly the bodies are kept for all that time.
It's a bunch colder than the coldest freezer you have for storage. Not surprising at all.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 6:43 pm to usc6158
My dad had the privilege to work with a guy named Vern Tejas in the late 80's and early 90's in the Arctic Circle. He is a legendary mountaineer as far as I know. They'd hire pro mountaineers to climb towers and rigs up in the circle because ordinary climbers just couldn't in those conditions.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 6:43 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Guy just did it this week.
Not bad for a 53 year old.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 6:44 pm to foshizzle
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Guy just did it this week.
Not bad for a 53 year old.
There's quite a few older mountain guides. I couldn't do it.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 6:46 pm to Navytiger74
Too bad you cant just throw them down the mountain til they hit bottom. They're frozen.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 6:47 pm to artompkins
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I think the fatality rate on Annapurna is over 50% maybe?
If my memory serves, the "fatality rate" you're quoting is the ratio of deaths to successful summits. There are plenty who don't summit, and some of those die (and wind up counting anyway).
Posted on 1/16/15 at 6:48 pm to jdd48
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My dad had the privilege to work with a guy named Vern Tejas in the late 80's and early 90's in the Arctic Circle.
Vern is still active and around. He's on the "Ultimate Survival Alaska" show. Still works out of Talkeetna.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 6:52 pm to foshizzle
There are a couple of fatality rates that are tracked. Those that attempt to climb the mountain and die and those that summit and perish on the way down.
I'm an avid reader of books about mountaineering and particularly the Himalayan and Karakoram ranges. The top thing on my bucket list is to trek to K2 base camp. I have no desire or aspiration to actually set foot on the mountain.
I'm an avid reader of books about mountaineering and particularly the Himalayan and Karakoram ranges. The top thing on my bucket list is to trek to K2 base camp. I have no desire or aspiration to actually set foot on the mountain.
This post was edited on 1/16/15 at 6:53 pm
Posted on 1/16/15 at 7:00 pm to BigOrangeBri
There's a really good movie about K2 called "The Summit" on Netflix. It follows an expedition that killed 11 climbers in 2008 within 2 days.
Part of the reason why 2 of them died is that they tried to carry a dead climber down the mountain. 2 climbers basically got dragged off a 2000' cliff after the dead climber got loose. The movie has a lot of original video of the incident. Highly suggest watching it if you ever consider high altitude climbing.
The serac on K2 is a scary scary mofo. Glad I haven't seen it in real life.
Part of the reason why 2 of them died is that they tried to carry a dead climber down the mountain. 2 climbers basically got dragged off a 2000' cliff after the dead climber got loose. The movie has a lot of original video of the incident. Highly suggest watching it if you ever consider high altitude climbing.
The serac on K2 is a scary scary mofo. Glad I haven't seen it in real life.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 7:09 pm to JoePepitone
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I used to have a very informative book about George Mallory who may have summited before Hillary. Mallory is one of the dead who is still on the mountain. I looked for that book just recently and can't find it.
The George Mallory and Sandy Irvine book is called Ghosts of Everest. Although their camera and Irvine's body were never found, I seriously doubt they summited before Sir Edmund Hillary. The photo of Mallory's body which was found in 1999 is haunting. Mallory took a more difficult route than Hillary to attempt a summit and did not have Sherpas to carry the loads.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 7:10 pm to Broke
So people can gather free gear on their attempts to climb Mount Everest.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 7:16 pm to RBWilliams8
If you die above 20K feet (Everest summit is 29K), nobody will attempt to bring your carcass down.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 7:21 pm to RBWilliams8
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So people can gather free gear on their attempts to climb Mount Everest.
Sherpas do all the carrying anyway, the climbers only walk up the mountain. The sherpas are also super superstitious, so I doubt they will work for you if start going through dead peoples stuff.
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