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re: Team better move fast if they want Lael
Posted on 5/5/15 at 8:44 am to boxcar willie
Posted on 5/5/15 at 8:44 am to boxcar willie
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Posted on 5/5/15 at 8:47 am to Hangover Haven
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They have a 1/32 chance
Look.....sanity!
Posted on 5/5/15 at 8:53 am to S
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then again if rex ryan is in on the meeting,
Rex is gonna tell him to sign with Rob IMO FWIW
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:02 am to Clockwatcher68
quote:I didn't say Collins was bad. I said that Payton has taken an ultra cautious approach this year with the locker room it appears. So, bringing in a potential distraction does not appear to be in his interest.
Signing an Eagle Scout with zero arrests is bad for the locker room?
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:05 am to geaux2008
He would take striefs position quickly
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:06 am to NOSHAU
I really doubt that there is a single NFL team that would not take him. High ceiling low risk at this point.
People keep pounding on the damn keys that he should have been drafted when his own damn agent said he wouldn't sign past 2nd round.
So here we are waiting to see where HE wants to go.
People keep pounding on the damn keys that he should have been drafted when his own damn agent said he wouldn't sign past 2nd round.
So here we are waiting to see where HE wants to go.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:06 am to rondo
I'd think coming to the Saints would be a no-brainer for several reasons.
1. He is local. Born in Baton Rouge, it wouldn't be too far-fetched to believe he was is a Saints fan. Playing for the home team is a dream for many. Also he will be close to family and friends, and unlike Mathieu, doesn't need to escape from here.
2. His position is one of need with the Saints, and he would start from Day 1.
3. He will join a team that has a window to win a super bowl.
4. He will play next to an All-Pro in Unger and with another in Evans.
5. The Saints have been known to pay big money to guards.
6. The Saints can offer him the same amount of money as any team, so it's not about the cash and more about the fit.
Won't really matter if they keep dragging this out and if he is indeed found to have some connection with the murder, but if not, I'm hoping he stays home.
1. He is local. Born in Baton Rouge, it wouldn't be too far-fetched to believe he was is a Saints fan. Playing for the home team is a dream for many. Also he will be close to family and friends, and unlike Mathieu, doesn't need to escape from here.
2. His position is one of need with the Saints, and he would start from Day 1.
3. He will join a team that has a window to win a super bowl.
4. He will play next to an All-Pro in Unger and with another in Evans.
5. The Saints have been known to pay big money to guards.
6. The Saints can offer him the same amount of money as any team, so it's not about the cash and more about the fit.
Won't really matter if they keep dragging this out and if he is indeed found to have some connection with the murder, but if not, I'm hoping he stays home.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:09 am to tke857
I would have given us the hometown love had the latest situation not come up, now I can see the guy wanting to get as far away from this as possible and not have to answer questions every time he talks to someone. It really hurt the odds of the Saints rather than help. He may still want to play for his home team though who knows.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:12 am to tke857
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He would take striefs position quickly
Strief is a tackle, Collins would start at LG.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:15 am to kiNupe5
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The Saints worked out Collins at LSU's Pro Day in late March and took him out to dinner. Coach Sean Payton expressed interest in Collins during the draft over the weekend, but said he was hesitant to pick him as he figured other teams were as well because of the recent news.
"We had a really good grade on Collins," Payton said Thursday night. "Teams are projecting him at tackle and guard, and our projection with him is as a guard. I think he's a very dominant player, physical."
Payton identified guard as a need for the Saints entering the draft, and Collins is built more like a guard at 6-foot-4 and 308 pounds. He played left guard as a sophomore at LSU in 2012 before starting his last two seasons at left tackle. The Saints took offensive tackle Andrus Peat of Stanford with the 13th pick of the first round and drafted no guards or offensive linemen.
New Orleans did sign two undrafted free agent guards on Monday afternoon – Doniel Gambrell (6-6, 315) of Notre Dame and Cyril Lemon (6-3, 315) of North Texas and an offensive tackle in Sean Hickey (6-6, 306) of Syracuse."
"If we were just looking at the grade of the player, he did a lot of good things for LSU," Payton said of Collins on Saturday. "There's an interest in any young offensive lineman."
The Saints worked out Collins at LSU's Pro Day in late March and took him out to dinner. Coach Sean Payton expressed interest in Collins during the draft over the weekend, but said he was hesitant to pick him as he figured other teams were as well because of the recent news.
"We had a really good grade on Collins," Payton said Thursday night. "Teams are projecting him at tackle and guard, and our projection with him is as a guard. I think he's a very dominant player, physical."
Payton identified guard as a need for the Saints entering the draft, and Collins is built more like a guard at 6-foot-4 and 308 pounds. He played left guard as a sophomore at LSU in 2012 before starting his last two seasons at left tackle. The Saints took offensive tackle Andrus Peat of Stanford with the 13th pick of the first round and drafted no guards or offensive linemen.
New Orleans did sign two undrafted free agent guards on Monday afternoon – Doniel Gambrell (6-6, 315) of Notre Dame and Cyril Lemon (6-3, 315) of North Texas and an offensive tackle in Sean Hickey (6-6, 306) of Syracuse."
"If we were just looking at the grade of the player, he did a lot of good things for LSU," Payton said of Collins on Saturday. "There's an interest in any young offensive lineman."
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:19 am to NOSHAU
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I didn't say Collins was bad. I said that Payton has taken an ultra cautious approach this year with the locker room it appears. So, bringing in a potential distraction does not appear to be in his interest.
Fair enough. What a weird situation. He will end up being fine if he wasn't involved.
This post was edited on 5/5/15 at 9:23 am
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:32 am to LSUZombie
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1. He is local. Born in Baton Rouge, it wouldn't be too far-fetched to believe he was is a Saints fan. Playing for the home team is a dream for many. Also he will be close to family and friends, and unlike Mathieu, doesn't need to escape from here.
2. His position is one of need with the Saints, and he would start from Day 1.
3. He will join a team that has a window to win a super bowl.
4. He will play next to an All-Pro in Unger and with another in Evans.
5. The Saints have been known to pay big money to guards.
6. The Saints can offer him the same amount of money as any team, so it's not about the cash and more about the fit.
1.) I think that works against us. Some people would rather the excitement of playing somewhere else. Especially if they spent there ENTIRE lives here already. It's the same as kids going to out of state colleges. Or LeBron going to Miami. Some people just need to get it out of their system.
? 2.) He would start day 1 on nearly any team.
3.) Several teams have a better chance than the Saints. He can pick any of them.
4.) Valid.
5.) For his rookie contact we could only pay him as much as any other team. And that's all anyone is signing him for now anyway. After that contract he could go anywhere that offers him more money.
6.) You just contradicted your previous point. But what is the "fit"? There are many teams that he will fit in just as well. Maybe he doesn't want to play guard?
Not to mention playing somewhere else would allow him the opportunity to get away from the drama that's built up around his current predicament. I'm sure he isn't too fond of BRPD for ruining a once in a lifetime opportunity for him.....
Look, I would be ECSTATIC if Collins signed with the Saints. But as fans we need to take off the rose colored glasses and look at the facts without bias. A lot of the points in this thread are reaches because we WANT him to play here. Nothing more than wishful thinking.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:38 am to xXLSUXx
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4.) Valid.
4 isn't even valid, no way he can be inbetween unger and evans. What's he gonna play centuard?
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:40 am to Chad504boy
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What's he gonna play centuard?
Is that the football version of the centaur?
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:52 am to Chad504boy
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What's he gonna play centuard?
Wish I could photo shop!
Posted on 5/5/15 at 10:02 am to xXLSUXx
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5.) For his rookie contact we could only pay him as much as any other team. And that's all anyone is signing him for now anyway. After that contract he could go anywhere that offers him more money.
Jahri Evans, Carl Nicks, Jeff Faine were all the highest paid interior lineman at some point . Bushrod got 5yrs/$36M. Hell even DLP was relevant for a while. Plain and simple: Brees gets lineman paid. Collins agent has to know that.
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6.) You just contradicted your previous point. But what is the "fit"? There are many teams that he will fit in just as well. Maybe he doesn't want to play guard?
The contracts of interior lineman have been rising so unless he becomes an elite left tackle (which I doubt), he would make just as much money at OG. It would better serve him to come to a very good line with a dominant QB and play OG than to play OT for a team with a weak line and questionable QB.
He should be thinking solely about putting himself in the best situation to get a big next contract. He should go to one of the Saints, Pats, Packers, Seahawks, Cowboys, Steelers, Ravens, Colts, maybe Broncos, maybe Chiefs.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 10:13 am to NOFOX
Kromer is the Oline Coach in Buffalo and he is definitely one of the best OL Coaches in the game, so that could be a factor.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 10:17 am to Fun Bunch
i think the browns are the favorite but how awesome would it be for collins to be on team that does the hard knocks this year.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 10:23 am to Chad504boy
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4 isn't even valid, no way he can be inbetween unger and evans. What's he gonna play centuard?
You didn't hear, they are kicking Evans out to LT bc they want a veteran presence. Armstead will move to RG bc he is a starter already so will naturally be able to just move to another position on the o-line and Peat is going to play RT so he can gain the necessary experience. Unger will be the Center.
Left to Right we will have:
Evans - Collins - Unger - Armstead - Peat.
As the most experienced veteran Strief will back up ALL positions
Posted on 5/5/15 at 10:25 am to Weekend Warrior79
quote:What in the hell is this?
Left to Right we will have:
Evans - Collins - Unger - Armstead - Peat.
As the most experienced veteran Strief will back up ALL positions
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