re: Mickey Loomis should be fired

Indy gave away a 1 for Trent Richardson, Shirley we can get that huh?

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That still does not excuse the contracts of graham galette and browner.

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graham

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Are you serious? Lmao. They gave the best weapon in franchise history 4 years 40 million. Chump change. His dead money is the result of a personnel decision

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galette

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Was the best pass rusher on the team and was given a deal worth his value. The team is supposed to anticipate that he would go off the deep end, or a magical video would surface AFTER the deal? Come on, dude.

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browner

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3 years 15 million. seriously? Well worth the risk considering what he did before coming here.

But if Loomis is fired, who would call in the defensive substitutions?

Peat looked good when he was in and with zach declining(faster than we imagined) he's going to be the starting RT next year

Grayson was a future pick and you know that

Williams/Tull are talented and could've really helped this season,it's unfortunate they got hurt

Davison could develop into a nice player later on.

Swann as you said played very decent for a late 5th rounder at a position rookies traditionally struggle with.

I'd say the prospects for this class lot a good deal better than some of the others.

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Now if you want to let the jury remain out and wait to deem this a solid draft, then by all means, lets do that.

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Of course

We need new position coaches though

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I could make a list of reasons why, but we all know them. Any naysayers? If so please explain why. He has ruined our franchise for the foreseeable future.

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Honestly the main problem is this win-now mentality. If you look at the Patriots (lets not kid ourselves, they are the model of how an organization should be run) they simply do not make big acquisitions in free agency, they let most players who want big paychecks walk, they trade aging productive players away in return for draft picks, and they evaluate talent and pick players that may not be the best well-rounded or flashy players, but they are good at a few things. BB knows how to create schemes that bring the best out of his players.

We have done pretty much the opposite until this year, when we did a few things on that list. We traded away productive players for more picks. We made decent decisions with our picks. That gives me some hope about the future.

I do think we need to possibly rummage around in the NCAA for some coordinator talent on both sides of the ball. Payton needs to go back to leading this team and worrying less about calling plays.

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You can't pay your tight end 40 mil when you don't have an offensive line that can protect Drew long enough to get him the ball.

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Well there's that unger guy they traded him for....

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You can't pay your tight end 40 mil when you don't have an offensive line that can protect Drew long enough to get him the ball.

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So are you saying the team should have let Jimmy walk in FA?

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Galette is a good pass rusher, AND THATS IT. He's shite against the run. And he's a piece of fricking shite human and we knew that and still paid him.

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Pass rushers are at a premium in this league. If you're seriously saying that he isn't worth the money he was paid, if you take out the character issues, then you're insane. Again, the two biggest contributors to his cut both happened after this deal was signed. The team would have been absolutely stupid to let him walk away in FA when they couldn't get pass rush production from anywhere else. and guess what? We're still in that situation.

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Browner was ranked below Tracy porter in PFF free agent defensive backs in 2015. But that's just a site that uses numbers and stats.

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I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but I am one of the biggest proponents of PFF stats on this board, so I'm pretty sure you're barking up the wrong tree here.

Regardless of that, again, Browner's deal was chump change. And the veteran presence he's providing for the young guys is well worth the money, if only he wasn't such a disaster on the field. You can't point to a team with a 140 million salary cap giving 5 million a year to a veteran and say that is the decision that broke the bank. C'mon, dude.

Sean Payton should be fired.

He is in full on dumpster fire head coach mode. Demote him to offensive coordinator and bring in a guy who knows how to manage something more than the offensive gameplan.

A head coach's duties extend far beyond calling offensive plays and Payton has failed at almost all of them.

Players not running schemes correctly, top 3 in penalties on both sides of the ball, inability to part with shitty assistant coaches, etc...

Oh and 5 mil a year isn't chump change you nitwit. You can sign a far better player for 5 a year.