re: Mickey Loomis should be fired

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Look it up dude. I'm right about the PFF stuff. They did rankings. Browner was waaaay down there. And his vet presence is doing what? Taking cheap shots on other players?

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I don't have to look it up. I believe you. That doesn't mean anything. PFF grades only strictly on-the-field snaps. They know absolutely nothing about what kind of impact a player has in the locker room, pre-snap, on the sideline, mnone of that. Browner has been on two super bowl teams. He is a knowledgeable veteran. It was reported last week that Browner stays after in every single DB meeting with Breaux to help him with film study. That is what a veteran line Browner brings. He is a locker room presence.

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You think the Patriots keep guys like galette around because he's good? I would venture to say no because they believe that shitty people aren't good for the team. A shocking belief, I know.

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Again, I don't know how many times I'm going to tell you this, both of Junior's biggest incidents were AFTER getting his big deal. He was a vet in the locker room and contributed on the field. We had only a few small issues at that time. There was no way for the team to anticipate what happened. I'm sorry you're butthurt about it.

The Patriots drafted a guy that KILLED TWO PEOPLE, and they cut him when the reports came out. Just like we did when Gallette became a nuisance.

So you want to pay a guy 5 mil to talk to people and get his arse handed to him on Sunday? Makes sense

And galette was awful in that locker room before that deal. He's a vet in tenure only. He got that deal because we didn't have the balls to tell him to frick off after the shitshow on d THAT HE WAS APART OF the year before. All the injuries he's going thru now are simply karma.

But I love how you admitted that I'm right about Browner and still you justify his existence.

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4-5 is not a joke. He deserves one more year.

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Last year we went 7-9 and missed the playoffs.

This year we're 4-6, and in the last two games:

we lost to a 1-6 Titans team because we did not cover a fricking tight end that is 250 pounds and slow, and we can out flat the entire second half. Then our Head Coach and offensive coordinator and his frick buddy McMahon couldn't get our special teams on the field to kick a field goal. How you manage as an NFL Coach to not have your special teams ready for a game winning field goal in a two minute drill 4th quarter scenario with no timeouts blows my mind.

Then we went on to get blown out by the 3-5 Redskins.

Payton's answer to this is to fire Rob Ryan and in his place promote a guy who had been calling the failing defensive schemes all season?

And you want to give this dude another year? Why?

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Two words.

Super Bowl

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No one is debating that from 2006-2011 Payton ruled over the greatest stretch in Saints football history.

I will forever remember Payton and Williams as the Golden era coaches of the Saints. And I am thankful for those years.

But I was a Saints fan long before Payton arrived and I will be long after he's gone. This is a business.

His superbowl in 09 does not put him above criticism and he is not performing as a head coach right now.

Keep him as offensive coordinator, fine, but this franchise needs a new head coach.

The penalties, the lack of preparation and awareness, the confusion, the lack of developed rookies, the lack of accountability, these things all fall back on the Head Coach.

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Make Ireland the GM.

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Please God no. Hrs pretty horrific on the contract/business end. He is perfect right where he is.

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Oh, this dumb shite

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I was just saying that we should think about the best for the franchise, not loyalty to one player or Coach, but You're right, I'm sorry.

Payton deserves to stay as head coach of the Saints forever no matter what because of that superbowl win.

Hey we had 40 shitty years before the Superbowl. Why not 40 shitty years afterwards? Forget trying to improve anything just keep paying Payton.

Must go. 100%

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I used to defend Loomis on here, but I'm with you.


Too many financial frick ups.

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I think every decision to kick the can down the road was done with the knowledge that at some point they'd have to pay for it. In other words, it was done intentionally to extend the window for chasing another championship.

Loomis wasn't making that decision any more than he is making personnel decisions.

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I used to defend Loomis on here, but I'm with you.

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grab your pitchfork baw, we could use you