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Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:55 pm to St Augustine
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:55 pm to St Augustine
Last year is the only time I can think of where the main person mocked to us was actually picked
Cooks was talked about quite a bit on here and on some mocks but wasn't constantly mocked to the Saints
06 Bush was expected but top 2 is easy to predict a lot of times
Cooks was talked about quite a bit on here and on some mocks but wasn't constantly mocked to the Saints
06 Bush was expected but top 2 is easy to predict a lot of times
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:59 pm to St Augustine
Just stating an observation. Have no intention of predicting anything.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:59 pm to CocoLoco
Safe and upside are different characteristics.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 9:00 pm to El Campo Tiger
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RB? Really? I mean I wouldn't mind McCaffery at 11, but it wouldn't be because we are filling a need.
It would be filling a Sean Payton "want."
We just gave up Cooks to improve our defense. I don't think we did that just to get a similar player in McCaffrey. Could be wrong though.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 9:09 pm to CocoLoco
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Last year is the only time I can think of where the main person mocked to us was actually picked
Me too. I think Sedrick Ellis was pretty widely thought to be our pick ( him or Dorsey ) back in 07 I believe. But if I remember correctly DT was an absolutely massive need and we were picking around 10. But that was also a wife and two kids ago and I'm drunk.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 9:13 pm to bonethug0108
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For someone knocking Barnett for athleticism, Harris has EXTREMELY similar numbers, but a much worse 3 cone. Harris had a better 40 by .06, but Barnett had a better broad by 8 inches.
And Barnett blows him away in production. And is heavier.
finally, someone with some fricking sense... and i'm not the biggest Barnett fan, either, but if you take Charles goddamn Harris at #11, over Hooker, Barnett, etc, then you deserve everything that you get as a result....
Posted on 4/26/17 at 9:17 pm to classy
quote:Yet, he's not really. He also does not have the hands Barnett has and struggle against the run.
Looks really quick. Quicker than Barnett.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 9:20 pm to chRxis
I don't want to sound down on Harris though. He has potential and more polished moves. He's also a bit like Reddick in that he can drop in coverage too.
But at this point Harris is more potential than proven, though in the end he could prove to be a better rusher.
I think I would slightly prefer him over Charlton, though either at 32 would be fine (though neither may make it). No way at 11. I prefer someone more proven that high up.
But at this point Harris is more potential than proven, though in the end he could prove to be a better rusher.
I think I would slightly prefer him over Charlton, though either at 32 would be fine (though neither may make it). No way at 11. I prefer someone more proven that high up.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 9:41 pm to Fun Bunch
I like to see the Saints trade down to the mid teens and select Watt. Select a corner with 32 pick. Extra pick, Saints pick TE Butt.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 9:48 pm to CocoLoco
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Last year is the only time I can think of where the main person mocked to us was actually picked
Day before the draft a lot of people pegged Kenny Vacatro and Malcolm Jenkins.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:03 pm to Lester Earl
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7.05 3 Cone
Actually I'm seeing 7.35 3 cone drill from Harris pro day:
quote:
Josh Norris? @JoshNorris Apr 18
Harris did retest at 3-cone and ran a 7.35 https://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=127236&draftyear=2017&genpos=DE …
Here is the included LINK
Here is Harris' Relative Athletic Score
Taco Charlton
Haason Riddick
Composite scores (with pro day results) are typically near the bottom of the pages).
EXAMPLE:
Of course, this is merely athletic prowess and not pass rush moves, etc.
This post was edited on 4/26/17 at 10:05 pm
Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:12 pm to bbrownso
I love nfldraftscout but some of his 2017 info has been off
Search Charles harris pro day and read the KC Star article
Search Charles harris pro day and read the KC Star article
Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:13 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:Actually that's plus points for Saints.
Only a 3rd to move back that far would be a bit of a fail.
#45/#77 for #32, would do in heartbeat.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:24 pm to drizztiger
Going by the chart it would be 590 to 655 and favoring us.
But 32 has a premium because of the 5th year option so it's a pretty even trade overall.
But 32 has a premium because of the 5th year option so it's a pretty even trade overall.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:26 pm to Lester Earl
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I love nfldraftscout but some of his 2017 info has been off
Search Charles harris pro day and read the KC Star article
I think the issue is that pro days are typically hand-timed (because schools and player have incentive for good performance) and it depends on the source who was hand timing. I've seen the other number floating around too.
Who knows for sure?
Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:29 pm to bonethug0108
My choice would be 2 players between 45-77 over one player at 32. I think the quality of player is negligible and would allow to address more needs or double down if desired.
ETA: Unless someone unexpected drops to #32, then I would use the pick. But I think #32 this year could be a prime trade down spot.
ETA: Unless someone unexpected drops to #32, then I would use the pick. But I think #32 this year could be a prime trade down spot.
This post was edited on 4/26/17 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 4/27/17 at 12:55 am to classy
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Charles Harris at 11. Yikes
i'd be alright with it.
i'm all for adding pass rushers.
don't care about their pedigree either.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 7:58 am to LooseCannon22282
Epic melt down if we do this. My jaw dropped watching this crap last night. I'm not against Harris, but at 11 it's a ridiculous pick. Not a fan at all of that trade either. Drop back 13 spots and only pick up an extra 3rd? 
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