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Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:01 pm to Fun Bunch
I would guess 2nd and 3rd to move to #32.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:02 pm to LSU1215
Well yeah the 2nd is a given. I would want more than a 3rd to move back that far.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:03 pm to Fun Bunch
that would be fine with me, gives NO two 2nds & three 3rds
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:07 pm to hsfolk
They might use 2 of those 3rds to get a extra 2nd round pick. This draft is going to have a few trades and I'm sure the Saints will get alot of calls at #11 and #32 spot.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:08 pm to LSU1215
Just pick guys on defense. Please!!!
This post was edited on 4/26/17 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:12 pm to classy
I like Harris, but not at that spot. Think he is a mid-20s type player. Still like it better than Barnett, who honestly should be an early 2nd-mid 2nd type guy.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:13 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
yikes? go watch his tape, pls
i think he is one of the 5-6 guys that will be in play for us
Williams is the same, if not a better player that can be had at 42 though..if you don't mind your pass rusher having smoked a little weed in his day..which if we're being honest I'm sure harris has too
This post was edited on 4/26/17 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:25 pm to Lester Earl
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yikes? go watch his tape, pls
i think he is one of the 5-6 guys that will be in play for us
For someone knocking Barnett for athleticism, Harris has EXTREMELY similar numbers, but a much worse 3 cone. Harris had a better 40 by .06, but Barnett had a better broad by 8 inches.
And Barnett blows him away in production. And is heavier.
This post was edited on 4/26/17 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:25 pm to classy
I've actually read a lot of insider stuff that says Reddick and Harris could easily be top 15 picks and the Jets are in love with Harris.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:29 pm to Rand AlThor
What don't you like about Barnett?
Seems like a safe pick to me
Seems like a safe pick to me
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:34 pm to bonethug0108
Harris came back strong at his pro day
37.5" vert
9'10" broad
7.05 3 Cone
Which match the explosion off the ball that you see on tape
That being said I never said I favored one or the other.
37.5" vert
9'10" broad
7.05 3 Cone
Which match the explosion off the ball that you see on tape
That being said I never said I favored one or the other.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:35 pm to CocoLoco
It's trendy to hate a guy with high production but a "bad" 40?
Seriously if people dislike Barnett but like Harris I really don't know what to say. The one thing Harris has on him is more polished moves and he can drop into zones more.
Seriously if people dislike Barnett but like Harris I really don't know what to say. The one thing Harris has on him is more polished moves and he can drop into zones more.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:40 pm to Lester Earl
Barnett still had a better 3 cone and broad. That vert is 6.5" better than his though.
But if you call one athletic and the other not you are fricking insane (not you personally Les; anyone who does).
I do like Harris' potential as someone who can play more zone coverage and help disguise things, but he hasn't proven he is the better rusher, and he damn sure isn't as good against the run.
But if you call one athletic and the other not you are fricking insane (not you personally Les; anyone who does).
I do like Harris' potential as someone who can play more zone coverage and help disguise things, but he hasn't proven he is the better rusher, and he damn sure isn't as good against the run.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:42 pm to bonethug0108
For me it has nothing to do with his 40. I questioned his athleticism long before the underwear olympics because it shows just by watching the guy. He won in college with a good motor and by guessing snap counts. He has absolutely zero traits that stand out above the rest. He is a well below average athlete (27th percentile among edge players in this draft class - LINK) and I just don't see what he has translating to long-term success in the NFL. He is going to be outclassed athletically by every tackle he faces from here on out. Every single one.
I think his motor and bend/hands (which are good but overrated on this board) will get him some early sacks. But he will never be more than a 4-6 sack player and I just can't justify taking a player with such a low ceiling in the top 15. If you think that he will get more sacks than that, the only argument is that Jordan, Fairley and Rankins will create opportunities for him - which is also true for anyone else we take that actually has superstar capabilities.
JMO. I'd love for us to pick the guy and me be wrong, I'll eat fricking crow I promise, but personally I just don't see it.
ETA: Just so we get it out of the way, I understand he has a good 3 cone. I understand the 40 has little to do with pass rushing. I think his lack of explosion shows on tape but the numbers help solidify the case.
I think his motor and bend/hands (which are good but overrated on this board) will get him some early sacks. But he will never be more than a 4-6 sack player and I just can't justify taking a player with such a low ceiling in the top 15. If you think that he will get more sacks than that, the only argument is that Jordan, Fairley and Rankins will create opportunities for him - which is also true for anyone else we take that actually has superstar capabilities.
JMO. I'd love for us to pick the guy and me be wrong, I'll eat fricking crow I promise, but personally I just don't see it.
ETA: Just so we get it out of the way, I understand he has a good 3 cone. I understand the 40 has little to do with pass rushing. I think his lack of explosion shows on tape but the numbers help solidify the case.
This post was edited on 4/26/17 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:42 pm to classy
If we could trade back to like 17 I'd be cool with taking him.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:42 pm to classy
quote:
No one thinks he's going 11. May be a good player but 11 I've never seen.
Have you not realized that these online guys have no clue who these teams are actually interested in. That's why every year people flip out when _____'s best available is in the board for a round plus later than he has them listed for.
This post was edited on 4/26/17 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:44 pm to St Augustine
Mayock has been one of the most accurate mockers, too. He's actually in tune to team needs
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:44 pm to St Augustine
I mean if anyone in the media has any clue what they're talking about it's definitely Mike Mayock 
I doubt we take Harris at 11, but the guy definitely knows player eval
I doubt we take Harris at 11, but the guy definitely knows player eval
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