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For All The "I Dont Understand Why We Need Another Small WR" Posters...

Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:32 am
Posted by Meateye
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:32 am
So for all you guys that keep saying "We dont need Dorsett!!" "That would be stupid , We need a big body WR!!"

Well Brandin Cooks is here to tell you why these statements are not true in today's game, watch his video blog and he will explain....

quote:

Being a smaller receiver in the NFL has its advantages on the football field. In my latest video blog episode, I discuss why I never let "being too small" interfere with my drive to be a professional athlete.


LINK




Get used to it, this will be the new Saints tandem....








This post was edited on 4/28/15 at 11:36 am
Posted by SnoopALoop
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Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:35 am to
I'm slowly beginning to love the idea of Dorsett and Cooks on the field together. The quick and elusive WR is becoming the norm around the league.. just as long as we have a big TE... Colston helps as well
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:37 am to
Brees' top pass catchers for the past decade have been Colston and Graham. One is gone and one is on his last legs.

I'm fine with Dorsett but we still need a big body guy
Posted by geauxtigers87
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:38 am to
that's a girly looking cellphone cover cooks has
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:39 am to
Love Dorsett but 31 might be a bit rich for my blood. I think Agholor is a better all around guy than Dorsett if we went wr at 31.
Posted by GMoney2600
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:39 am to
I'll take Dorsett at 44. Hopefully he makes it there. CSP better be damn sure to take him at 31.
This post was edited on 4/28/15 at 11:42 am
Posted by Midget Death Squad
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:43 am to
The smaller WR's could actually have an advantage. With the move to big CB's to counter the recent trend of big WRs coming out, the small/quick WRs will have an advantage in breaking free of their coverage. While I still think we need some big bodies on the team, I can see how having smaller guys will benefit us. I didn't watch the video so maybe this was covered.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:45 am to
sure there are advantages but there's also advantages to height etc as well. I mean, how often was it our goal line play "throw it up to jimmy on sideline"
Posted by bonethug0108
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:45 am to
I also just posted a list of the receiver "types" in another that helps explain why a speedster this year makes more sense than a big guy. We can get a big guy next year unless Coop or White or maybe even Parker falls to us.

Big guys we have: Colston, Toon, Coleman, Jones, Watson, Hill

Speedsters we have: Cooks, Saunders, Morgan, and maybe count Spiller

Clearly we have more capable big bodied guys with only one proven speedster and another guy that will only be a part time receiver, with the other two being question marks.
Posted by blades8088
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:47 am to
quote:

Get used to it, this will be the new Saints tandem....


Thanks for the update coach/manager.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:48 am to
A small receiver talks up the positives of being a small receiver? Groundbreaking stuff right there.
Posted by bonethug0108
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:49 am to
quote:

how often was it our goal line play "throw it up to jimmy on sideline"


Because it worked 95% of the time. It used to be throw it up to Colston and that worked about 85% of the time. And Bush/Sproles we're pretty money on goal line routes and we have a new back in that vein.

Add in our other big guys and we have options.

So unless there is a 6'7" receiver worthy of a late first through second round pick I don't know about I'm not sure what point you're making.
This post was edited on 4/28/15 at 11:50 am
Posted by Meateye
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:49 am to
quote:

I also just posted a list of the receiver "types" in another that helps explain why a speedster this year makes more sense than a big guy. We can get a big guy next year unless Coop or White or maybe even Parker falls to us. Big guys we have: Colston, Toon, Coleman, Jones, Watson, Hill Speedsters we have: Cooks, Saunders, Morgan, and maybe count Spiller Clearly we have more capable big bodied guys with only one proven speedster and another guy that will only be a part time receiver, with the other two being question marks.


Spot on!!

also we can get the big body later in the draft with someone like Devante Davis or Deontay Greenberry.
Posted by Whodatforlife21
Big Easy
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:50 am to
If Parker is available at 13 we should take him.
Posted by Suntiger
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:51 am to
Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne were both 6'0" and were Manning's go to WRs. Granted they had Dallas Clark who was 6'3". Also, Manning is Manning and he's 6'5" where as Drew Brees is 5'3" or something.
Posted by Sparkplug#1
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:51 am to
Didn't the Pats win the super bowl with 2 5'-11" starting WRs last year? Colston can be as good as Lefell.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:54 am to
quote:

Big guys we have: Colston, Toon, Coleman, Jones, Watson, Hill

Speedsters we have: Cooks, Saunders, Morgan, and maybe count Spiller

Clearly we have more capable big bodied guys with only one proven speedster and another guy that will only be a part time receiver, with the other two being question marks.




You are overvaluing those big WRs we currently have. Colston is the only proven one, and he isn't much good anymore. Toon has done nothing in 3 years, and the rest are all undrafted maybe-hopefully-please players. So no, we don't have capable big body guys. In fact that is where we are clearly thirsting.
Posted by Meateye
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:55 am to
Another write up from SB Nation

quote:

NFL teams lust after tall receivers, right? Wrong! While it may be true they attract attention in the lead up to the NFL Draft in any given year, the great, tall receivers are relatively rare finds. Enamored with finding the next Calvin Johnson, teams and fans alike comb through college prospects, and their eyes fix quickly to any wide receiver with 6'4" in the measurable-s line. Yet, in the current top receivers ranking at NFL.com, nine of the Top 20 are 6'1" or under in height. Whether this has to do with the aforementioned rarity of speedy, big receivers, I really don't know. Since 2007, the receiver with the most catches is 5'9" Wes Welker (703). Calvin Johnson - over the same time period - had 509 receptions. But it's yardage that's the thing, you say? Hmm... Well, Megatron has a slight edge, with 8,148 receiving yards, versus Welker's 7,774. The area where the big, tall receivers have an undeniable edge is in touchdowns. Johnson's 58 dwarfs (no pun intended) the 5'9" Welker's 45 touchdowns. Tall guys in the red zone are handy to have, but that's really the only area that screams advantage to me.

The world of the NFL wide receiver is in its heyday. Pass-happy offenses are flinging the ball around in record numbers. The trend toward finding tall, fast, lanky receivers with great hands is undeniable, but it doesn't tell the whole story. "Smallish" wide receivers are making their mark like never before. With the defensive trend toward huge corner backs to counter these fleet giants sprinting down the field, the opportunities for small, lightning quick receivers are exploding. New England's Bill Belichick has known for some time, that the right size mix can vex opposing defenses. What's more, quarterbacks who possess the small receiver option are inherently more successful than those who don't. Matt Stafford has some great statistics, but little post season success to show for all the times he's thrown to Johnson. This season, if you asked Tom Brady who he misses most, it would no doubt be the reliable Welker, or an un-injured Danny Amendola. It's about having that one weapon available flitting around underneath coverage, or flashing out to the sidelines in a key moment.

One of the least heralded weapons for Drew Brees these last couple years has been the diminutive Lance Moore. In 2012, he quietly accounted for 20-ish% (1,041 receiving yards) of Drew Brees' 5,177 passing yards. On teams with fewer offensive weapons - like the St. Louis Rams in 2012 - small receivers represent an even more important role as "safety blankets", like Danny Amendola did for Sam Bradford. Now with New England, Amendola accounted for just shy of 20% of Bradford's total passing yards.




Couple years old but it makes the point
This post was edited on 4/28/15 at 11:57 am
Posted by Midget Death Squad
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:59 am to
Meat, nobody is discrediting the need and advantage of the small shifty WR's, but you are failing to recognize the requirement for balance. You can't have a team made up of all small WRs. The main point of this article is how difficult it is to find the next Calvin Johsnon. Well no shite That doesn't mean there isn't a need for a 6'2"+ WR on a team. Just as a team should never have only big WRs, it should also not have only small ones. Balance is key in order to expose all areas of the field and game
Posted by bonethug0108
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:01 pm to
Watson is unproven?

And Hill has shown flashes as has Toon. Jones and Coleman both have decent potential but I'll agree they may never pan out.

On the flipside, Saunders had one catch and Morgan can't stay out of trouble. That leaves Cooks as our only full time speedster.

Speed is a MUCH greater need this year. Next year IF Colston goes size will be a need. This year it is not.

And I'm not saying avoid it, but it has to be value and the late first to second round big guys aren't as good as the speedsters in that range, which conveniently is the bigger currently need for us.
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