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re: Which would you rather?
Posted on 1/14/17 at 1:26 pm to cgrand
Posted on 1/14/17 at 1:26 pm to cgrand
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and don't forget about pondexter...they are on the hook for him unless he retires
I know it's completely conspiracy theory level thinking, but the difference in ticket revenue in a good year vs. a rebuilding year is about $5 million. (600k tickets x $30 average price vs 450k tickets @ $30). Pondexter's insurance money and Tyreke's insurance money combine to cover a down year. If Demps keeping his job is a bottom line decision, insurance money could save his arse and he may want QPon's $3 million in insurance money next year too.
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Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:16 pm to TigerinATL
That's quite an interesting theory. I feel like you just told me there was a shooter on the grass knoll and gave me a picture to prove it.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:54 pm to chesty
It makes sense. But if we lose a roster spot for him for that long, but can we get a player exemption for that reason?
Posted on 1/14/17 at 3:34 pm to cgrand
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he's not quick enough on his feet to do all the switching the pels want to do
Switching everything is lazy man defense. you don't need to be quick to do that.
I hate how they switch everything all the time. Get through it if it's easy. All it takes is communication. There's nothing wrong with switching, but make the offense at least work to make you have to switch.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 5:33 pm to hassan101
I'm Getting tired of AD getting hurt. We can't string together a win streak
Posted on 1/16/17 at 9:27 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Switching everything is lazy man defense. you don't need to be quick to do that.
I hate how they switch everything all the time. Get through it if it's easy. All it takes is communication. There's nothing wrong with switching, but make the offense at least work to make you have to switch.
serious question- do you watch playoff basketball?
Posted on 1/17/17 at 12:16 pm to hassan101
Fuking draft pick. 8th sees will kill this franchise. This draft has 6-7 players that have a superstar type ceiling. This is actually a draft that backs up the talk
Posted on 1/17/17 at 12:19 pm to TigerinATL
So we are basically fricked is what you're saying.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 12:21 pm to corndeaux
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serious question- do you watch playoff basketball
What's your point?
Posted on 1/17/17 at 12:42 pm to Macintosh504
Pretty much fam. So might as well just sit back and hope to see some decent ball
Posted on 1/17/17 at 4:00 pm to TeddyPadillac
teams playing the best, most difficult basketball in the world use switching regularly, if not exclusively, to defend in May/June. if you can't switch, you're toast. why do you think slow footed players (primarily bigs) are routinely run off the court when the games get serious? how do you think OKC/Cleveland were able to slow the Warriors down?
there is nothing lazy about switching properly and it isn't easy to do well. communication between 5 players in real time is hard
also, you're bitching about the Pels switching too much - they have the 7th rated defense on the season and the best defense since moving Davis to the 5 full time. not sure why anyone would be upset with the way they're playing defense
there is nothing lazy about switching properly and it isn't easy to do well. communication between 5 players in real time is hard
also, you're bitching about the Pels switching too much - they have the 7th rated defense on the season and the best defense since moving Davis to the 5 full time. not sure why anyone would be upset with the way they're playing defense
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 1/17/17 at 4:15 pm to hassan101
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I'm Getting tired of AD getting hurt. We can't string together a win streak
Good. AD's probably thinking longterm. The 12th pick of the draft aint doing shite for him.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:59 pm to hassan101
Pels currently have the 8th worst record in the NBA
2 1/2 games out of last place in the west.
2 1/2 games out of last place in the west.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 10:04 pm to corndeaux
Switching is why curry got abused last year. Pelicans are playing some dumb sound defense but they need more consistency from their point guards and small forwards.
Hield/galloway/Moore are more stable than what jrue/tyreke/hill/Cunningham bring to the table. It's baffling how ice cold they can be and the biggest issue is they shouldn't be this up and down.
Hield/galloway/Moore are more stable than what jrue/tyreke/hill/Cunningham bring to the table. It's baffling how ice cold they can be and the biggest issue is they shouldn't be this up and down.
Posted on 1/18/17 at 6:42 am to htran90
that was a stunning post from start to finish.
asking for my friend R. Adams, how would you defend a Kyrie/JR PnR?
complaining about the Warriors, of all teams, switching too much or being lazy or whatever point you're trying to make, is rich. also, what type of defense were OKC and Cleveland running to slow the Warriors down?
the fundamental point you and Teddy are missing is that shooting+space requires switching to even have a chance defensively. and that has holes due to personnel and difficulty of actually pulling off the switches (see record setting offense across the league this year).
if yall really think ICING, zone overload, or "just fighting over screens" works v space+shooting, you just aren't paying attention.
what does that even mean? they are 7th on the season. 1st since going small. what are you talking about? they make mistakes and blow assignments from time to time? every team does. is their OPP expected FG% unusually high compared to actual FG%?
if you think Buddy Hield (lol) and Langston Galloway are "more stable" defenders than Holiday, Hill, and Cunningham, i don't where to go from here.
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Switching is why curry got abused last yea
asking for my friend R. Adams, how would you defend a Kyrie/JR PnR?
complaining about the Warriors, of all teams, switching too much or being lazy or whatever point you're trying to make, is rich. also, what type of defense were OKC and Cleveland running to slow the Warriors down?
the fundamental point you and Teddy are missing is that shooting+space requires switching to even have a chance defensively. and that has holes due to personnel and difficulty of actually pulling off the switches (see record setting offense across the league this year).
if yall really think ICING, zone overload, or "just fighting over screens" works v space+shooting, you just aren't paying attention.
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Pelicans are playing some dumb sound defense
what does that even mean? they are 7th on the season. 1st since going small. what are you talking about? they make mistakes and blow assignments from time to time? every team does. is their OPP expected FG% unusually high compared to actual FG%?
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Hield/galloway/Moore are more stable than what jrue/tyreke/hill/Cunningham
if you think Buddy Hield (lol) and Langston Galloway are "more stable" defenders than Holiday, Hill, and Cunningham, i don't where to go from here.
Posted on 1/18/17 at 8:40 am to corndeaux
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there is nothing lazy about switching properly and it isn't easy to do well. communication between 5 players in real time is hard
You are right, and that's not what I meant by it.
What i'm talking about is when Lebron is 45 feet from the basket and someone runs by and doesn't even set a pick, yet we switch it and now Moore is on Lebron instead of Hill, and then he drives to the goal and gets fouled and we lose the game b/c instead of thinking logically, we just switched automatically like it was a given.
All i'm saying is that in certain situations, like the one above, you have to make them work for the switch. That takes a lot of communication and 5 people having court awareness all the time. Switching everything no matter what does not require nearly as much communication and court awareness.
Having court and personnel awareness is what i'm asking for. I don't care if Hill/DC/AD switch everything, even Jrue. But when Buddy or Moore or Galloway are out there with them, that's where the mismatch happens.
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not sure why anyone would be upset with the way they're playing defense
i'm not upset with their overall defense. it's been working really well. Like I said, at the end of the game, I wish we made more of an effort to not always switch, especially when there was barely a pick set. Don't just automatically give them the mistmatch during crunch time. If you watched the last Cavs game you'd know what i'm talking about. there is no need to switch a pick that is poorly set 40 feet from the basket.
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if you can't switch, you're toast. why do you think slow footed players (primarily bigs) are routinely run off the court when the games get serious
B/c they get switched onto faster guys. Your point isn't being made here. If they didn't switch, they wouldn't have to guard a guard 30 feet from the basket.
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OKC/Cleveland were able to slow the Warriors down?
They both had a big man capable of playing decent man to man against a much smaller defender (Thompson and Adams)
Look, you have to switch just about everything in the NBA. If you don't then you're either going to give an open lane for LeBron to drive into where he will get fouled, or you give a guy like Irving or Curry a wide open 3. You have to make those switches. If you don't have a big capable of playing good defense on that switch, you're toast.
Switching on Curry and Irving is a must, b/c you have to stay in their face or they will hit the 3. Switching on Lebron makes him drive to the goal against a smaller defender. You want him shooting the 3. you don't need to always switch with him, especially when he's not a threat to do anything far away from the basket.
I'm asking for better situational awareness, especially at the end of games, not just lazily switching everything no matter what.
Posted on 1/18/17 at 8:43 am to TeddyPadillac
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I'm asking for better situational awareness, especially at the end of games, not just lazily switching everything no matter what.
Maybe next year. Building a competent defense has definitely been a process.
Posted on 1/18/17 at 8:44 am to TeddyPadillac
CP isout two months...maybe the Clips lose again in the first round, blow it up and/or CP decides to come home?!?!
That is the fastest way the Pels get back to relevancy.
CP
Buddy
Top 8 pick
AD
DMo
Ship?????
That is the fastest way the Pels get back to relevancy.
CP
Buddy
Top 8 pick
AD
DMo
Ship?????
Posted on 1/18/17 at 8:52 am to TigerinATL
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Maybe next year. Building a competent defense has definitely been a process.
I understand what i'm asking for is difficult. It really requires 5 guys to be prepared and dialed in. some people are just stupid. It only takes one defender to frick it all up. If everyone can't have the court awareness i'm talking about, then you just say switch everything no matter what to make it easy.
Sometihng like a switch happening and Jrue is on a big and that big, as he's going to his position in the post with Jrue, runs right by whoever DC is guarding, make that switch real quick if possible, especially if DC's guy is on the other side of the basket. Take your chances with DC guarding a guy like Porzingis, not Jrue, even though Jrue destroyed him in the post.
This post was edited on 1/18/17 at 8:54 am
Posted on 1/18/17 at 8:53 am to Solo
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blow it up and/or CP decides to come home?!?!
I seriously doubt Ballmer wants to trade his big 3, hit the reset button and hire a new coach and GM, which is what blowing it up would mean.
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