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re: The Crewz Memorial "Insider Info" 2k17 Trade Simulator Thread: Official
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:48 pm to TigerinATL
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:48 pm to TigerinATL
quote:
but if they don't want to tank isn't Holiday + Noel + dump better
My only complaint about this is the $$$ to keep the team.
What's Noel's asking price as an FA? I heard a lot of max talk last year, he'll probably fly just under that though. You guys are estimating $20-25M for Jrue annually.
That means we have Lillard and Noel on max, Jrue making $20+, Crabbe will be making close to $19M+.
I believe the plan would be to move Crabbe into the starting SG spot if we were to move CJ and try to net a true post defender/scorer.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:51 pm to Crewz
quote:
Maybe I should learn from your respectful, engaging demeanor!!
Accept that you're doing a thankless job and you'll eventually be thanked, demand payment for what people aren't willing to pay much for and you'll be told to GFY.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:55 pm to TigerinATL
Yeah, I gave up on that a long time ago and instead just tried to repay the misery they all caused me. Petty, I know, but it gives me joy
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:59 pm to Crewz
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Oh, it didn't have legs? It wasn't reported that the Pels had discussions about him days after I said by reporters like Shelbourne, Lowe, Woj, and others? GTFOH
So what if they discussed it. We've learned that they have discussed a lot of crap, b/c other GM's know we are idiots and they are seeing what they can get from us. Just b/c we learned that the Pels, as well as Toronto, Denver and Chicago, and LA, and Sacramento had "talks" about Milsaps, doesn't mean any of it meant anything, which it didn't since nothing came close to happening.
Thanks for letting us know before it was reported by ESPN that we talked to Atlanta, who had talked to half the league about Milsaps, fishing to see if they could get a first for him, which they couldn't.
Buyers are liars, and so are sellers. they'll say anything to get what they want. You are just in a position where you get told crap by one of these liars, so they can get something out there without having to say it themselves. I seriously doubt you are going to find out about an actual McCollum/Jrue trade, that actually has legs, before anyone else.
If they are in talks about it, it's likely just another team seeing if the Pelicans will offer them something stupid, since we have idiots running our front office.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 1:04 pm to TeddyPadillac
So if a guy like Tiger brought you the same info days before, you wouldn't be licking his nuts and asking for the next scoop?
You hate me. Fine. But nobody else was giving you that info days before. And nobody else will. Like I said, I have learned my lesson, I won't give any more. But your disdain for me as a person blinds you
You hate me. Fine. But nobody else was giving you that info days before. And nobody else will. Like I said, I have learned my lesson, I won't give any more. But your disdain for me as a person blinds you
Posted on 1/19/17 at 1:04 pm to theducks
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My only complaint about this is the $$$ to keep the team.
You are probably locking into a 2nd tier playoff team core, but Portland kind of already committed to that path when they made the playoffs instead of tanking the year they hit the reset button. If Lillard is as happy being in Portland as he claims, I say roll with it and be that kind of team for the next 10 years. You never know when the playoff matchups and injuries will line up right for you.
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I believe the plan would be to move Crabbe into the starting SG spot if we were to move CJ and try to net a true post defender/scorer.
Lillard/Crabbe/Aminu/Harkless/Noel
or
Lillard/Holiday/Crabbe/Aminu/Noel
You know Portland a lot better than I do, but that bottom lineup seems a lot more balanced and you swap out a role playing caliber starter for a good starter.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 1:09 pm to Crewz
quote:
You hate me. Fine. But nobody else was giving you that info days before. And nobody else will. Like I said, I have learned my lesson, I won't give any more. But your disdain for me as a person blinds you
Honest question: why do you need this so called character? You occasionally have information to share and put time and effort into your opinions/ideas, but you act like a twat for fun? It's Trumpish of you. You can stir debate and increase the knowledge of the fan base here without being a condescending prick.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 1:09 pm to TeddyPadillac
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I seriously doubt you are going to find out about an actual McCollum/Jrue trade, that actually has legs, before anyone else.
Normally I think this is true, if a deal isn't imminent it's either dead or you're hearing about it because someone involved wants you to. However, we're far enough ahead of the trade deadline that some of the discussions that have taken place will end up being the 1% of discussions that result in a trade. I don't think it can be dismissed, just dissected and analyzed for feasibility.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 1:13 pm to NOFOX
To tell the truth: I do things for fun. My goal was to see if I could make you guys like me and ask me for my opinions and info- slurping on me like the people at PR did. You guys HATED me before I came on here, so I tried that and accomplished it.
Then, as soon as I accomplished that I set out a goal to make you guys hate me even more then you did before. And here we are. Next step will be to start a new account when you least expect it and make you love jay character, then reveal to you it is me
Playing with humans brains brings me joy. And I will accomplish the third just like I did the first two. Watch.
Then, as soon as I accomplished that I set out a goal to make you guys hate me even more then you did before. And here we are. Next step will be to start a new account when you least expect it and make you love jay character, then reveal to you it is me
Playing with humans brains brings me joy. And I will accomplish the third just like I did the first two. Watch.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 1:17 pm to TigerinATL
You guys still don't fully understand how trade discussions work. They last for months, sometimes years. Leaks aren't always motivated like you think. Sometimes a guy goes, "Hey, we are batting these ideas around, what do you think."
You guys wouldn't understand it until you talked to higher ups. I didn't. There is so much casual convo and so many levels to trade discussions, it would blow your mind
Don't try to understand it. Just take the info and know that 95% of the time it won't go anywhere because executing a trade is HARD
You guys wouldn't understand it until you talked to higher ups. I didn't. There is so much casual convo and so many levels to trade discussions, it would blow your mind
Don't try to understand it. Just take the info and know that 95% of the time it won't go anywhere because executing a trade is HARD
Posted on 1/19/17 at 1:17 pm to Crewz
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To tell the truth: I do things for fun. My goal was to see if I could make you guys like me and ask me for my opinions and info- slurping on me like the people at PR did. You guys HATED me before I came on here, so I tried that and accomplished it.
Then, as soon as I accomplished that I set out a goal to make you guys hate me even more then you did before. And here we are. Next step will be to start a new account when you least expect it and make you love jay character, then reveal to you it is me
Playing with humans brains brings me joy. And I will accomplish the third just like I did the first two. Watch.
This is really sad. You should go over to the Political Talk board. I think you would fit in very well over there.
To summarize: you wanted to make us like you, but we hated you, so you tried to make us hate you which we already did, so you tried to make us hate you more before you create an alter and try to make us like you? But you aren't doing it for attention, just like playing with human brains. Get the frick out You cannot be serious with this. This is hilarious. How old are you? I thought you were middle aged, but you sound just like a college freshman chick.
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 1/19/17 at 1:24 pm to NOFOX
I explained it above. When I do what I set out to do it will bring me joy. I am a sociopath, not an attention seeker.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 1:25 pm to Crewz
I don't mind the info. I like it. that's what this board is for. I don't like you as a person b/c you have this thought that only your info is worthy of praise while everything else on here is just from some stupid arse fan and means nothing.
Didn't you tell us that you guaranteed Asik would play better than a couple of the high dollar bigs that went in FA this past summer?
How's that prediction working out?
How's Thomas Robinson doing, the guy you were slobbering all over? are we idiots for signing Jones instead of Robinson?
How's rekes' medical chart?
You've fed us tons of idiotic opinions you call facts.
Didn't you tell us that you guaranteed Asik would play better than a couple of the high dollar bigs that went in FA this past summer?
How's that prediction working out?
How's Thomas Robinson doing, the guy you were slobbering all over? are we idiots for signing Jones instead of Robinson?
How's rekes' medical chart?
You've fed us tons of idiotic opinions you call facts.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 1:25 pm to Crewz
I don't mind the info. I like it. that's what this board is for. I don't like you as a person b/c you have this thought that only your info is worthy of praise while everything else on here is just from some stupid arse fan and means nothing.
Didn't you tell us that you guaranteed Asik would play better than a couple of the high dollar bigs that went in FA this past summer?
How's that prediction working out?
How's Thomas Robinson doing, the guy you were slobbering all over? are we idiots for signing Jones instead of Robinson?
How's rekes' medical chart?
You've fed us tons of idiotic opinions you call facts.
Didn't you tell us that you guaranteed Asik would play better than a couple of the high dollar bigs that went in FA this past summer?
How's that prediction working out?
How's Thomas Robinson doing, the guy you were slobbering all over? are we idiots for signing Jones instead of Robinson?
How's rekes' medical chart?
You've fed us tons of idiotic opinions you call facts.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 1:26 pm to Crewz
quote:So, if it has actually been discussed, is the only hold up whether Jrue would commit long term to Portland? If so, they should get him on a plane to Portland and let them work it out. From the Pels side, it seems like a no-brainer.
Mine is not based on hope though. I am reporting on some things actually bantered about. He is simply throwing out what he thinks is fair. He also doesn't know what Blazers want to accomplish. They want to stay relevant
Posted on 1/19/17 at 1:26 pm to Crewz
quote:
I am a sociopath, not an attention seeker.
You might be a sociopath, but you are certainly a narcissist and are lying to yourself if you honestly think that you are not an attention seeker.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 1:27 pm to Crewz
I can definitely believe this. Seems like every year we here about 100 trade possibilities but only 3-4 are executed.
Take the Asik trade for example. It was announced two days before the draft but wasn't actually completed until mid-July with a bunch of pieces we didn't expect.
Player X may have Y value on Z team but not hold even remotely the same value for the team looking to acquire him and vice versa. You throw money into that and you're looking at trainwreck of a headache. The 30th best GM in the league is still better at this than the average joe on a message board. Still fun to fantasize sometimes though :)
Take the Asik trade for example. It was announced two days before the draft but wasn't actually completed until mid-July with a bunch of pieces we didn't expect.
Player X may have Y value on Z team but not hold even remotely the same value for the team looking to acquire him and vice versa. You throw money into that and you're looking at trainwreck of a headache. The 30th best GM in the league is still better at this than the average joe on a message board. Still fun to fantasize sometimes though :)
Posted on 1/19/17 at 1:27 pm to NOFOX
Nah, go back to July. You all were slurping on me. Asking for info and opinions. Hard to remember but we were all buddies. Then I made a sharp left. In fact several posters said, "Why do you have to go back to being an (blank) just as you were becoming likeable?
An actual quote! Now, just wait for phase 3!!!!
An actual quote! Now, just wait for phase 3!!!!
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 1/19/17 at 1:30 pm to NOSHAU
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is the only hold up whether Jrue would commit long term to Portland?
I would say the hold up is you usually get better value nearer the deadline. Even if Portland and the Pels are ready now, this would probably be a multiteam deal. Let's assume Philly is the 3rd team. Does Philly think they can do better for Noel by waiting? Remember how untradeable Morris seemed for Phoenix? He was a negative trade asset the first few months of the season and they got a 1st out of Washington at the deadline.
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