re: Official Free Agency and Trade Thread: Latest Pels sign Charles Cooke to 2 way

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The best laid plans of Loomis and Demps.......

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Being paralyzed by past mistakes may well have optimized the offseason. If they can bring Cunningham back for another year on a near minimum deal they'd have a lot of value deals to pair with Ajinca and/or Moore later in the year.

I say no because I wonder how useful RoLo is with this roster. I also think he'd be hard to trade simply because it's near impossible to get any kind of value for a traditional center these days. I really want them to find a way to eat the shite sandwich they made so they don't have to use picks to get out of it.

Lopez would be our shitty built in backup plan if Boogie left.

Nets are looking for a center and are probably my only hope to take Ajinca cheap (looking for a center)...

Bulls where RoLo is actually playing wont do it without pick. They screwed a pick in Butler trade. Probably want it back.

I personally wont do this trade. It is easier to move smaller pieces alone.
Of course in Asiks case nothing is easy.

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Asik, Ajinca, and a 2018 top 10 protected 1st for Lopez

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Absolutely not.

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Thoughts?

Asik, Ajinca, and a 2018 top 10 protected 1st for Lopez

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so it is send out a pick to save ~$1.5M this season (~$6M over 3 years) to bring back Cunningham? no thanks.

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I personally wouldn't do it, but I'd do something like that.

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I have no problem using a 1st to turn that salary into something useful, I just don't think a traditional center is very useful with AD/DC taking up most if not all of the center minutes.

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getting rid of Asik is the major component of this trade.

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Except you replaced him with someone who because of his postion, not his talent level, really wouldn't get the opportunity to be worth that 1st. You paid a 1st to convert Asik and Ajinca's salary into what is essentially a 4th or 5th big because he's behind AD/DC and Small Ball.

I realize we aren't turning Asik and a 1st into a wing or guard worth trading for. At this point I think you have to put on the optimism bias glasses, bring back Cunningham and plan on dumping salary in December/January to get back under the tax. Hopefully enough of Moore/Clark/Crawford/Miller/QPon/Cunningham/Diallo play at a level that lets you bundle one or 2 of them with Ajinca in a dump. Or if QPon doesn't work out, use cash to dump him.

Maybe it doesn't work out and teams know you're desperate and you still have to give up a first to get under the tax this year, but that's the selling low option so I'd leave that as my last resort and not do it right now.

I dont' mind the idea of having a backup C like RoLo, I actually like that, but i'm not giving up a 1st to trade Asik for that. There are a ton of backup bigs that can do what we would be asking of them, for minimal money. Kyle O'Quinn would work just fine in that role, at $4M/yr for the next 2 years. I'm sure it wouldnt' be hard to get him.
Tyler Zeller is still out there in FA.

There is absolutely no reason to give away a first to get rid of Asik unless it absolutely makes us better. It's hard to justify that a backup C makes us that much better.

I'd like mirotic, but no.
This team does not need anything more than 1 year near minimum guys at backup center for the foreseeable future.

I'm just of the mindset that there is absolutely no reason to spend money on a backup 4 and 5 with AD and Cousins. Rookie contracts and minimum guys will suffice. Spend the money on shooters.