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re: Official Free Agency and Trade Thread: Latest Pels sign Charles Cooke to 2 way
Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:17 pm to Not Cooper
Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:17 pm to Not Cooper
I think you're right for basketball reasons, but I just think for psychological reasons minimal success with Cousins > minimal to even moderate success with random eastern european kid.
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Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:17 pm to TigerinATL
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If they were just the 8 seed with KP, I'm a lot less certain that AD extends immediately rather than waiting and seeing how good they get.
right. but you still have KP's rights in your back pocket.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:23 pm to corndeaux
you would think that the knicks would insist that noah be attached to any porzingis trade
so would you do KP + noah for cousins & a 1st?
so would you do KP + noah for cousins & a 1st?
Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:23 pm to cgrand
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re rubio
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The Rubio contract has value, $14.m and $14.8m. Teams need to ask: If Rubio was a FA would you pay 2 yrs/$28m for a 26 year old starting PG.
do it dell
wish holiday the best, thanks for the fish, and move on
I'm on this train, would prefer this then waiting with our dick in our hands while Jrue makes his decision
Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:30 pm to cgrand
thats tough. Noah looks done and he's got a lot of money left to go.
if i could attach Ajinca to Cousins + 1st to get total salary roughly even, probably.
but the on court questions about Davis/KP are legit. they aren't running point big man with those two. i don't see much High/Low game with them. they would need to be back to spread PnR with an excellent distributor/creator. and i don't know if that maxes out each player on offense the way Davis + Cousins in a Denver type offense might
the defense is likely a hell of a lot better though.
if i could attach Ajinca to Cousins + 1st to get total salary roughly even, probably.
but the on court questions about Davis/KP are legit. they aren't running point big man with those two. i don't see much High/Low game with them. they would need to be back to spread PnR with an excellent distributor/creator. and i don't know if that maxes out each player on offense the way Davis + Cousins in a Denver type offense might
the defense is likely a hell of a lot better though.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:47 pm to corndeaux
quote:How in the hell could not assemble a package? Ainge needs to come off of some of the picks and turn them into impact players.
Marc Stein? @ESPNSteinLine
The Celtics remain in trade pursuit of Kristaps Porzingis, league sources say, trying to assemble a package to meet the Knicks' demands.
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:50 pm to NOSHAU
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How in the hell could mot assemble a package?
I'm guessing they don't want to give up #3 or next year's Brooklyn pick and they're hoping they can sucker some team with a top 10 pick to trade for a combination of Smart/Crowder/Bradley.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:51 pm to TigerinATL
NY wants BOTH #3 and brooklyn 2018. They also want crowder AND brown.
that's ridiculous
that's ridiculous
Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:55 pm to NOSHAU
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How in the hell could mot assemble a package? Ainge needs to come off of some of the picks and turn them into impact players.
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Boston Celtics have spoken to the Minnesota Timberwolves about acquiring the 7th pick in the draft, league sources told Basketball Insiders.
Supposedly Ainge offered a player, #3 and another lottery pick they think they can acquire. I am guessing maybe Phil is pushing for future picks too. We will see. I think Ainge wins out on this.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:01 pm to htran90
No way I would trade Brown. Phil backed himself into a corner with confirming the rumors. I'd give up Crowder, a first, and maybe one pick in 2019, take it or leave it. The celtics could easily be better off just keeping the picks.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:04 pm to NOFOX
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Boston Celtics have spoken to the Minnesota Timberwolves about acquiring the 7th pick in the draft, league sources told Basketball Insiders.
Is Crowder or Bradley alone enough to get 7? Both seems like too much though. Bradley/Crowder for 7/Rubio then Rubio for Moore?
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:07 pm to TigerinATL
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Is Crowder or Bradley alone enough to get 7? Both seems like too much though. Bradley/Crowder for 7/Rubio then Rubio for Moore?
Something like Crowder + 2018 BOS + 2019 LAC may be enough. So could end up something like Brown/Smart + 3 + 7 + 2019 MEM for Porzingis.
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:16 pm to cgrand
Disagree. Rubio's best skills are passing and setting up teammates and you diminish it in Chris Finch's offense and make him someone that plays off the ball, cutting, and spotting up.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:17 pm to cgrand
Why would we give up the better player and a first?
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:18 pm to TigerinATL
I think Crowder for the 7 is probably fair, due to his low salary and 3 years remaining on his deal.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:21 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
Also the latest ESPN updates on what is going on in New York make me think anything can happen with this situation.
"Celtics offer number 3 pick, a potential additional lottery pick and one player for KP."
"Phil Jackson dozed off during prospect workout with Knicks."
What is going on with Phil?
"Celtics offer number 3 pick, a potential additional lottery pick and one player for KP."
"Phil Jackson dozed off during prospect workout with Knicks."
What is going on with Phil?
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:23 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
Senility.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:30 pm to htran90
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NY wants BOTH #3 and brooklyn 2018. They also want crowder AND brown.
that's ridiculous
is it though? 21yr old, 7'3, great fundamentals. Those aren't easy to find.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:41 pm to touchdownjeebus
So the Knicks want 2 first rounders, Crowder, and Brown for Porzingis?
So you're telling me NYK would trade their best PF for 3 SF's (Josh Jackson/Tatum being the best players at #3) while they already have Melo? Not to mention that package is WAY to high for Porzingis. Even the Phoenix proposal is absurd.
Knicks gonna Knick I guess
So you're telling me NYK would trade their best PF for 3 SF's (Josh Jackson/Tatum being the best players at #3) while they already have Melo? Not to mention that package is WAY to high for Porzingis. Even the Phoenix proposal is absurd.
Knicks gonna Knick I guess
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:41 pm to Pelicans8
quote:How so? Don't they have something like 7 or 8 1st rounders over the next 3 drafts? I cannot see them using all on unproven talent. I would use a couple with a player to get Porzingis.
The celtics could easily be better off just keeping the picks.
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