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Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:45 am to corndeaux
smith is 19
no way he starts off the year in a prominent role with Carlisle
mid to end of year maybe
no way he starts off the year in a prominent role with Carlisle
mid to end of year maybe
Posted on 6/23/17 at 10:32 am to cgrand
yeah. they are going to try to make a playoff push. they aren't handing the keys to a 19 yo in what could be Dirk's final season.
maybe it's not Holiday, but signing a vet who can create and cover for Smith on defense is a smart move for them
maybe it's not Holiday, but signing a vet who can create and cover for Smith on defense is a smart move for them
Posted on 6/23/17 at 10:36 am to corndeaux
I'm operating under the assumption that Jrue won't be back. To much smoke.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 10:39 am to Hazelnut
quote:
I thought trading for Matthews only made sense if we were dumping Asik?
He's roughly the same cost as Holiday's cap hold so the question is can you do better on the open market with Jrue's cap space than Matthews.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 10:43 am to TigerinATL
I'd be concerned about Matthews opting into his player option in 18-19.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 10:44 am to Epic Cajun
Yeah, he's probably become an MLE or less level player. Do you turn down 1/$18 to take 4/$36 or wait a year to get 4/$36?
This post was edited on 6/23/17 at 10:46 am
Posted on 6/23/17 at 10:46 am to TheJruth
Givony got that from Jrue's agent BTW.
He's trying to keep his market relevant for now as suitors fall by the waste side.
He's trying to keep his market relevant for now as suitors fall by the waste side.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 10:48 am to Crewz
Wayside
Posted on 6/23/17 at 10:49 am to Fun Bunch
spell check -- what you want from me-- Im taking a shite!
Posted on 6/23/17 at 10:50 am to Crewz
who is holidays agent?
Justin have the same guy?
is there any real push to package the two or is that just easy speculation?
Justin have the same guy?
is there any real push to package the two or is that just easy speculation?
Posted on 6/23/17 at 10:52 am to Crewz
As per tradition
Posted on 6/23/17 at 10:55 am to cgrand
I think it will take that for Jrue to re-sign. I think you get both, giving Justin the MLE and then you have the BAE, TPE, and your future 1st if you want to find a big man or upgrade more on the wing.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:00 am to Crewz
Thought it was weird coming from Givony. Offered it without comment. I really hope Jrue's agent doesn't shite all over our team to get his client to another team a la EG.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:01 am to Lsujacket66
Not happening so you and your sources can gfy
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:49 am to TigerBait2008
Mike Fisher
Mike Fisher @fishsports
about 16 minutes ago
#Mavs source confirms stated FA plan: No chase for big-fish PG now (like Jrue) w Smith Jr here (unless $ drops crazily + one falls in lap)
Mike Fisher @fishsports
about 16 minutes ago
#Mavs source confirms stated FA plan: No chase for big-fish PG now (like Jrue) w Smith Jr here (unless $ drops crazily + one falls in lap)
Posted on 6/23/17 at 12:52 pm to PelicansBay
even if the Mavs get rid of all their non major, non guaranteed players. That includes Yogi, Devin Harris, Finney Smith, etc. that stilll only gets them to about $22 million below the cap NOT counting Dirk. Dirk made $25 million last year. Let's say the Mavs get slimy, and Dirk agrees to a modest $10 million, that still only leaves $12 million or so.
I don't see any team willing to take on Mathews contract without sending something back. And even then, maybe they get a contract Jrue would like, but that doesn't count Justin. And after that they will have to match Noel and end up well over the cap and approaching luxury tax levels.
I just don't see it.
I don't see any team willing to take on Mathews contract without sending something back. And even then, maybe they get a contract Jrue would like, but that doesn't count Justin. And after that they will have to match Noel and end up well over the cap and approaching luxury tax levels.
I just don't see it.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 1:01 pm to Jon1798
not about holiday, but applicable
holiday's contract here will be a mistake, one that anyone can see coming.
dont do it dell
quote:
Those inexplicable L.A. contracts remind: Mistakes always come back to bite you. Transactions flow along a continuum. They are not independent from one another. Without Brandon Knight on the books through 2020, Phoenix might have swallowed Joakim Noah's deal as the price for relieving the Kazoos of their self-inflicted Kristaps Porzingis problem.
holiday's contract here will be a mistake, one that anyone can see coming.
dont do it dell
Posted on 6/23/17 at 1:12 pm to cgrand
Putting Holiday in the same categories of Brandon Knight, Omer Asik, Noah, Mosgov etc is a major major mistake in judgement. Jrue Holiday might not technically be worth $30 million, same as some other max players. But $20-$25 million is really just the going rate for an unrestricted free agent Pg that is in the top half of the league.
I think we as fans have gotten blinded by the situation. Makes no sense to compare a starting Pg to guys who shouldn't be in the league.
I think we all agree $30 million is too pricey. But there's a major jump from that, and those almost excited to see a very very good player leave at all costs. A guy who has been better than the Rubios and Bledsoe's everyone dreams about.
I think we as fans have gotten blinded by the situation. Makes no sense to compare a starting Pg to guys who shouldn't be in the league.
I think we all agree $30 million is too pricey. But there's a major jump from that, and those almost excited to see a very very good player leave at all costs. A guy who has been better than the Rubios and Bledsoe's everyone dreams about.
This post was edited on 6/23/17 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 6/23/17 at 1:15 pm to Jon1798
quote:
I think we all agree $30 million is too pricey.
its not the per year money, its the years
if the pels sign holiday to a 4 or 5 year deal (which is what has been reported to be on the table), he immediately becomes untradeable without an asset, and his deal will run past davis'
not tenable
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