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re: Dell Demps Approval Rating
Posted on 2/23/17 at 6:32 am to corndeaux
Posted on 2/23/17 at 6:32 am to corndeaux
Dell didn't get any smarter/better at his job. And he wasn't dumb before (as I often said when I was accused of kissing butt). He is the same GM today that he was on February 12th. He just had luck go his way for once. Normally it goes against him.
He is a smart guy and knows the game, rules of the CBA, etc better than anyone on this board. He makes mistakes, he makes smart moves. He gets unlucky. And finally, for the first time since the AD ping pong balls, he got lucky.
But he isn't a genius today and he wasn't dumb two weeks ago.
He is a smart guy and knows the game, rules of the CBA, etc better than anyone on this board. He makes mistakes, he makes smart moves. He gets unlucky. And finally, for the first time since the AD ping pong balls, he got lucky.
But he isn't a genius today and he wasn't dumb two weeks ago.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 6:35 am to Crewz
Do you think that there is a scenario where Demps fires Gentry and hires a new coach this offseason because I know he hasn't coached a game yet with cousins but I don't think he his the right coach
Posted on 2/23/17 at 6:42 am to Crewz
quote:
He is a smart guy and knows the game, rules of the CBA, etc better than anyone on this board. He makes mistakes, he makes smart moves. He gets unlucky. And finally, for the first time since the AD ping pong balls, he got lucky.
Of course.
I readily admit all that while posting on a free, anonymous message board. Yet I still think he did a spectacularly shitty job trying to build a pace/space roster.
And of course, that doesn't matter too much any more. Like you say, luck will play a huge role. Perhaps the Pels luck is finally turning
Posted on 2/23/17 at 6:51 am to BSB1988
I think they are genuinely giving Gentry a chance with this roster. But if it is obvious his system won't work over these 25 games, they will look elsewhere. But the same problem remains - Demps won't want to hire a guy who takes power from him. The question is whether Loomis fires both Dell and Gentry if Calipari calls again. Or if things blow up in LA and Doc does, etc.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 6:54 am to corndeaux
You might, but when people post things like "Dell is an idiot, he should have...." they are essentially saying or acting like they are smarter than him in this arena. They aren't. I'm not. Talk to him for an hour and you will realize that really quick.
He made some bets and was maybe a little too glass half full and they went bad, mostly because of freak injuries that not only hurt the team while the guys were injured, but it din't allow them to build cohesion. And it also killed guys trade value, as his whole plan was to acquire all these assets and then flip two or three for a major piece. Bad luck.
But on Sunday, he had his "Drew Brees" fall into his lap. The Kings (Dolphins) did something stupid and nobody else capitalized. Sometimes luck trumps intelligence.
He made some bets and was maybe a little too glass half full and they went bad, mostly because of freak injuries that not only hurt the team while the guys were injured, but it din't allow them to build cohesion. And it also killed guys trade value, as his whole plan was to acquire all these assets and then flip two or three for a major piece. Bad luck.
But on Sunday, he had his "Drew Brees" fall into his lap. The Kings (Dolphins) did something stupid and nobody else capitalized. Sometimes luck trumps intelligence.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 7:36 am to Crewz
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Sometimes luck trumps intelligence.
Yep. Lost in the team building wars around the Pels is that it takes a hell of a lot of luck to just reach a conference finals.
You can question the decision making process (and I have), but you're right. Sometimes it just doesn't matter as much as good luck in a variety of areas
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 7:37 am
Posted on 2/23/17 at 8:14 am to corndeaux
Dell's best skill is finding serviceable players on minimum deals and that is probably how we will fill a good bit of our roster moving forward if all 3 big pieces stay. He can't mess up the mid-level if we want to contend though.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:31 pm to TigerinATL
You're right, it doesn't matter to much anymore. I just really hope that if we are able to open up cap space this offseason through a trade and we miss on our top targets, that we don't dish out a long term deal to a player that might not be worth it. I'd much rather doing something like Boston did with Amir Johnson, we could find a decent shooting guard, sign him into a non-guaranteed one year deal with a team option for a second and let that become an asset come trade deadline or next year's off season.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:28 pm to Number 31
quote:sounds like there's an "s", but it's Divac
Vlade Divacs.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:24 pm to Number 31
Rumor is the "better deal" Vlade had on the table was from us.
It was the 2019 1st rounder in stead of the 2nd rounder this year.
So Boogie could have walked after next season before we were done paying for him.
Not good management.
Demps has been closing his eyes and swinging at the high heat for years and suddenly he is the best ever because he connected and put one out of the park? Please.
He is just as bad now as he was Sunday night.
It was the 2019 1st rounder in stead of the 2nd rounder this year.
So Boogie could have walked after next season before we were done paying for him.
Not good management.
Demps has been closing his eyes and swinging at the high heat for years and suddenly he is the best ever because he connected and put one out of the park? Please.
He is just as bad now as he was Sunday night.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 5:00 pm to Crewz
quote:
He is a smart guy and knows the game, rules of the CBA, etc better than anyone on this board. He makes mistakes, he makes smart moves. He gets unlucky. And finally, for the first time since the AD ping pong balls, he got lucky.
How do you explain the Asik and Ajinca contracts, and to some lesser extent, Hill? I'm genuinely curious as to me it seems like he got into a bidding war with himself and ended up spending about $7-10 million/yr on the 3 of them over what even the "overspend" value on these guys would have shown. We hadn't heard anything about competition signing these guys. The contracts were absurd and quite literally came out of nowhere.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 5:06 pm to ShamelessPel
Hence, the part where I said "he makes mistakes"
If you were the GM, you wouldn't go 100 for 100. I guarantee if I scoured your past posts, you advocated moves that would have been horrible for us. He is flawed. He was a C ten days ago, he is a C now, IMO. But he got unlucky in the past on moves that could have gone either way. He got lucky on Sunday. He will make good moves in the future and bad ones as well. His optimism bias got him with several past deals and it will probably burn him again in the future. He is human, but he knows the game better than we do.
If you were the GM, you wouldn't go 100 for 100. I guarantee if I scoured your past posts, you advocated moves that would have been horrible for us. He is flawed. He was a C ten days ago, he is a C now, IMO. But he got unlucky in the past on moves that could have gone either way. He got lucky on Sunday. He will make good moves in the future and bad ones as well. His optimism bias got him with several past deals and it will probably burn him again in the future. He is human, but he knows the game better than we do.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 5:31 pm to Crewz
I get the making mistakes part. The thing that worries me is making the same mistake multiple off seasons in a row. He should have learned to let the market dictate these deals after Asik and Ajinca, not do the same thing with Hill a year later. Because he didn't do that, 25 mil is tied up in 3 contracts we have to send out decent or better assets to rid ourselves of. I could understand it if it was players with potential upside, but to do it with 3 guys who are "what you see is what you get" isn't a mistake, it's just dumb.
I think he's getting too little credit for Cousins, and I understand the thought process behind the other moves that didn't pan out. It's really hard to look past those 3 deals though and have faith in him to build around the big 3.
I think he's getting too little credit for Cousins, and I understand the thought process behind the other moves that didn't pan out. It's really hard to look past those 3 deals though and have faith in him to build around the big 3.
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