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When does Vader first learn about Luke?
Posted on 1/11/16 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 1/11/16 at 1:32 pm
When does Darth Vader first learn about Luke and Leia? So for the first x amount of years of Luke's life Vader doesn't know about him because he was hidden by Kenobi in Pilottown, La? Did the Emperor know sooner?
Posted on 1/11/16 at 1:34 pm to Akit1
What I always though was funny is that in Empire, Vader knows that Luke's last name is Skywalker... but then he's shocked when the emperor tells him that it's his son.
Posted on 1/11/16 at 1:42 pm to Broski
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What I always though was funny is that in Empire, Vader knows that Luke's last name is Skywalker... but then he's shocked when the emperor tells him that it's his son.
Vader's just playing dumb to the Emperor. Of course as soon as he heard Luke's name he knew it was him.
Posted on 1/11/16 at 1:42 pm to Akit1
My guess would be that he learns about Luke in the timespan between ANH and ESB. I think the official cannon timeline has those two movies 2-3 years apart. So it would be easy enough as they are chasing them across the galaxy to capture a few people, interrogate them and find out the name of the pilot who blew up the Death Star.
He doesn't learn about Leia until he and Luke are in the throne room on the new Death Star in ROTJ - Luke thinks about her and Vader reads his thoughts.
My question (totally off topic but came to mind with the timespan mentioned above) is how long does it take to build a Death Star? We see Death Star 1 in the early stage of construction at the end of Ep 3, and it seems to be a fairly new weapon when we are introduced to it in Ep 4 - so a good 15 years or so to build it. But then we see DS1 destroyed and DS2 is well along in the construction phase in just about a 5 year span from Ep 4 to Ep 6.
Did the Empire learn so much about building it the first time that they were able to cut construction time by 2/3s with the second one, or did they use hundreds or thousands of labor conscripts to build it faster?
He doesn't learn about Leia until he and Luke are in the throne room on the new Death Star in ROTJ - Luke thinks about her and Vader reads his thoughts.
My question (totally off topic but came to mind with the timespan mentioned above) is how long does it take to build a Death Star? We see Death Star 1 in the early stage of construction at the end of Ep 3, and it seems to be a fairly new weapon when we are introduced to it in Ep 4 - so a good 15 years or so to build it. But then we see DS1 destroyed and DS2 is well along in the construction phase in just about a 5 year span from Ep 4 to Ep 6.
Did the Empire learn so much about building it the first time that they were able to cut construction time by 2/3s with the second one, or did they use hundreds or thousands of labor conscripts to build it faster?
Posted on 1/11/16 at 1:44 pm to PJinAtl
They began building the death star during episode 2 (the Geonosians were working on it).
Dooku stole the plans and gave them to Sidious.
If you assume 2-3 years between episodes 2 and 3 (with the Death Star already partially built), then another 18 years between episodes 3 and 4, the timeline makes sense.
Dooku stole the plans and gave them to Sidious.
If you assume 2-3 years between episodes 2 and 3 (with the Death Star already partially built), then another 18 years between episodes 3 and 4, the timeline makes sense.
Posted on 1/11/16 at 1:45 pm to PJinAtl
Maybe they placed an order two at once, and Episode 4 Death Star was the first completed due to workforce staggering.
Episode 6 Death Star subsequently suffered from construction delays due to massive change orders issued after E4DS was destroyed.
Episode 6 Death Star subsequently suffered from construction delays due to massive change orders issued after E4DS was destroyed.
Posted on 1/11/16 at 1:50 pm to LSUBoo
Vader, according to canon-which is now the Marvel comics line, wanted to track down the force sensitive pilot who blew up the Death Star. He knew Luke's name before ESB
Posted on 1/11/16 at 1:59 pm to RonBurgundy
Without even the comics, you have to infer that when he was trying to shoot down Luke and says in the movie "The force is strong with this one" that he had to have an idea.
Posted on 1/11/16 at 2:19 pm to musick
Well yeah, the. Comics take place after the first film. Which is why Vader knows the pilot is force sensitive
Posted on 1/11/16 at 2:33 pm to WicKed WayZ
Seems like if I wanted to hide Luke from the imperial leaders of the Galaxy, I would change his last name so that his papa wouldn't instantly recognize the name when he heard about me
Posted on 1/11/16 at 2:37 pm to LSUBoo
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Episode 6 Death Star subsequently suffered from construction delays due to massive change orders issued after E4DS was destroyed.
Posted on 1/11/16 at 2:39 pm to wildtigercat93
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Seems like if I wanted to hide Luke from the imperial leaders of the Galaxy, I would change his last name so that his papa wouldn't instantly recognize the name when he heard about me
i agree
something like.... Lone Starr
Posted on 1/11/16 at 2:42 pm to Broski
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What I always though was funny is that in Empire, Vader knows that Luke's last name is Skywalker... but then he's shocked when the emperor tells him that it's his son.
In that galaxy far far away...Skywalker is like Smith in America.
Posted on 1/11/16 at 2:53 pm to madmaxvol
yeah, he lied to him, knowing that Vader would find out soon enough, and it would just fuel his anger, and deepening his push into the dark side.
the stronger the hate and anger, the closer that person came to the dark side.
Chancellor knew exactly what he was doing.
the stronger the hate and anger, the closer that person came to the dark side.
Chancellor knew exactly what he was doing.
Posted on 1/11/16 at 3:00 pm to wildtigercat93
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Seems like if I wanted to hide Luke from the imperial leaders of the Galaxy, I would change his last name so that his papa wouldn't instantly recognize the name when he heard about me
Seems like they also shouldn't have hid him with Vader's only living family.
Posted on 1/11/16 at 3:11 pm to Akit1
I always assumed it was after the Death Star was destroyed. Imperial spies probably found out the name of the rebel pilot and reported it to Vader. He had to have figured that the Skywalker was his son. He was actively searching for him.
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 3:41 pm to Das Jackal
On another note, in E3 Jango Fett's head is cut off in his helmet by a light saber. Later Jango's son Boba Fett picks the helmet up off the ground. Wouldn't his dad's head still be in the helmet?
Posted on 1/11/16 at 3:43 pm to colorchangintiger
That is a great scene - I wish we had seen that on film.
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