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When does Vader first learn about Luke?

Posted on 1/11/16 at 1:32 pm
Posted by Akit1
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 1:32 pm
When does Darth Vader first learn about Luke and Leia? So for the first x amount of years of Luke's life Vader doesn't know about him because he was hidden by Kenobi in Pilottown, La? Did the Emperor know sooner?
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 1:34 pm to
What I always though was funny is that in Empire, Vader knows that Luke's last name is Skywalker... but then he's shocked when the emperor tells him that it's his son.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

What I always though was funny is that in Empire, Vader knows that Luke's last name is Skywalker... but then he's shocked when the emperor tells him that it's his son.


Vader's just playing dumb to the Emperor. Of course as soon as he heard Luke's name he knew it was him.
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 1:42 pm to
My guess would be that he learns about Luke in the timespan between ANH and ESB. I think the official cannon timeline has those two movies 2-3 years apart. So it would be easy enough as they are chasing them across the galaxy to capture a few people, interrogate them and find out the name of the pilot who blew up the Death Star.

He doesn't learn about Leia until he and Luke are in the throne room on the new Death Star in ROTJ - Luke thinks about her and Vader reads his thoughts.

My question (totally off topic but came to mind with the timespan mentioned above) is how long does it take to build a Death Star? We see Death Star 1 in the early stage of construction at the end of Ep 3, and it seems to be a fairly new weapon when we are introduced to it in Ep 4 - so a good 15 years or so to build it. But then we see DS1 destroyed and DS2 is well along in the construction phase in just about a 5 year span from Ep 4 to Ep 6.

Did the Empire learn so much about building it the first time that they were able to cut construction time by 2/3s with the second one, or did they use hundreds or thousands of labor conscripts to build it faster?
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 1:44 pm to
They began building the death star during episode 2 (the Geonosians were working on it).

Dooku stole the plans and gave them to Sidious.

If you assume 2-3 years between episodes 2 and 3 (with the Death Star already partially built), then another 18 years between episodes 3 and 4, the timeline makes sense.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101920 posts
Posted on 1/11/16 at 1:45 pm to
Maybe they placed an order two at once, and Episode 4 Death Star was the first completed due to workforce staggering.

Episode 6 Death Star subsequently suffered from construction delays due to massive change orders issued after E4DS was destroyed.
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 1:50 pm to
Vader, according to canon-which is now the Marvel comics line, wanted to track down the force sensitive pilot who blew up the Death Star. He knew Luke's name before ESB
Posted by musick
the internet
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 1:59 pm to
Without even the comics, you have to infer that when he was trying to shoot down Luke and says in the movie "The force is strong with this one" that he had to have an idea.
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 2:19 pm to
Well yeah, the. Comics take place after the first film. Which is why Vader knows the pilot is force sensitive
Posted by colorchangintiger
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 2:24 pm to
















Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 2:29 pm to
That's badass
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 2:33 pm to
Seems like if I wanted to hide Luke from the imperial leaders of the Galaxy, I would change his last name so that his papa wouldn't instantly recognize the name when he heard about me
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

Episode 6 Death Star subsequently suffered from construction delays due to massive change orders issued after E4DS was destroyed.


Posted by Ash Williams
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Member since May 2009
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

Seems like if I wanted to hide Luke from the imperial leaders of the Galaxy, I would change his last name so that his papa wouldn't instantly recognize the name when he heard about me



i agree

something like.... Lone Starr
Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

What I always though was funny is that in Empire, Vader knows that Luke's last name is Skywalker... but then he's shocked when the emperor tells him that it's his son.



In that galaxy far far away...Skywalker is like Smith in America.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 2:53 pm to
yeah, he lied to him, knowing that Vader would find out soon enough, and it would just fuel his anger, and deepening his push into the dark side.

the stronger the hate and anger, the closer that person came to the dark side.

Chancellor knew exactly what he was doing.
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

Seems like if I wanted to hide Luke from the imperial leaders of the Galaxy, I would change his last name so that his papa wouldn't instantly recognize the name when he heard about me

Seems like they also shouldn't have hid him with Vader's only living family.
Posted by Das Jackal
Da Bayou
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 3:11 pm to
I always assumed it was after the Death Star was destroyed. Imperial spies probably found out the name of the rebel pilot and reported it to Vader. He had to have figured that the Skywalker was his son. He was actively searching for him.
This post was edited on 1/11/16 at 3:16 pm
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87461 posts
Posted on 1/11/16 at 3:41 pm to
On another note, in E3 Jango Fett's head is cut off in his helmet by a light saber. Later Jango's son Boba Fett picks the helmet up off the ground. Wouldn't his dad's head still be in the helmet?
Posted by Bham4Tide
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Member since Feb 2011
22091 posts
Posted on 1/11/16 at 3:43 pm to
That is a great scene - I wish we had seen that on film.

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