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Watched The Last Jedi. I don't get the vitriol.

Posted on 7/4/18 at 12:11 am
Posted by magildachunks
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 12:11 am
I thought it was pretty damn entertaining.

Also didn't see the SJW shite everyone keeps bitching about. Maybe because I wasn't looking for it.

Oh well. Bring on the downvotes.
Posted by CockCommander
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 12:19 am to
Get ready for sandy vaginas
Posted by BayouBandit24
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 12:21 am to
Did you see the part where Leia floated back onto the ship??
Posted by magildachunks
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 12:24 am to
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Did you see the part where Leia floated back onto the ship





I'm supposed to be upset that a force-sensitive character used the force?


You ever see the part in Empire where Luke manages to fall out right above an antennae, snag it one-handed, then telepathically call out to Leia?
Posted by CockCommander
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 12:28 am to
Also apparently the movies promotes Veganism even though these idiots dont mention Luke eating fish
Posted by Ham Solo
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 12:31 am to
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Watched The Last Jedi.


Apparently not, based on the rest of your post.
Posted by Shiftyplus1
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 12:32 am to
LINK

This video sums it up for me. The destroying of Luke Skywalker was bad enough, but if Johnson had just stuck with Abrams' story, and not made the preceding film irrelevant, it might have been good. Instead it was a movie of dead ends. Nothing really happened. Nothing mattered. TLJ was a beautiful film, with some amazing action. It was just hollow, dumb, and a slap in the face to people who remember the OT from their childhood. (Which is quite a few)

Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 12:38 am to
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This video sums it up for me. 



A video subtitled An Unbridled Rage?

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d. Instead it was a movie of dead ends. Nothing really happened. Nothing mattered. T



Not true. Everything that happened in this film changed the characters.

Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 12:44 am to
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Not true. Everything that happened in this film changed the characters. 



Wrong, even if your statement is slightly correct, many characters were changed in worse ways.
This post was edited on 7/4/18 at 12:46 am
Posted by CockCommander
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 1:02 am to
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Wrong, even if your statement is slightly correct, many characters were changed in worse ways.


You contradict yourself. How can he be wrong if you agree that characters were changed? The fact they were made worse is irrelevant to your point.
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 1:15 am to
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How can he be wrong if you agree that characters were changed? 


Because there are a lot of characters.

List of characters that weren't changed off the top of my head.

Hux- incompetent brat in both movies.
Snoke- no change other than being dead
Poe- no change besides following a woman's orders
Finn- No change other than a girlfriend
Chewie- seems the same to me
Leia- no change except for newly found Merry Poppins abilities


Characters that changed in worse ways
Luke- we waited 30 years to see what a badass he became, but he became bitter and never even risked his own skin.

Rey- she is quickly becoming a great Jedi with zero training. That's not very interesting.

This is just off the top of my head. If you want more in depth analysis of how shitty the writing was on this film you will have to wait until tomorrow. Set all the fanboy crap aside and this film was was broken from the day they wrote the script. There was no hope for it past that point with that script.
This post was edited on 7/4/18 at 1:17 am
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
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Member since May 2004
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 1:15 am to
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Also didn't see the SJW shite everyone keeps bitching about. Maybe because I wasn't looking for it.


The entire sub plot was railing against capitalism, animal cruelty, and slavery.

They failed their mission but they still won because animals you guys lol

And honestly, that wasn’t why the movie was bad.

Horrible comedic timing, plot holes that make no sense, the complete lack of regard for build up in the previous film (if this weren’t the 8th episode in a 9 episode saga then maybe it would’ve been ok), a lackluster ending, Luke Skywalker went from believing the baddest Sith in the galaxy could still have good in him to trying to butcher a kid in his sleep because he “saw darkness in him”, give me a break.

Really, there’s more and we’ve discussed this shite ad nauseam and i really don’t care what you think. Just wanted you to know that the SJW shite had very little to do with this movie sucking.
Posted by LSUfan389
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 1:22 am to
I liked it. Of course saying that on this board will get you instant downvotes. Sure they’re are some bad scenes but overall it was good. Everyone who I’ve talked to that has seen the movie liked it too. Don’t let an internet message board shape your opinions on a movie you enjoyed watching. Only one person I know didn’t like it and he is a pretty negative person, which makes sense because this board is full of negative people.
This post was edited on 7/4/18 at 10:27 am
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 1:25 am to
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Also didn't see the SJW 


What's hilarious is that the entire point of Finn and the Asian girl being in this movie is to be diverse and inclusive.

The problem is that these two characters have become a token black and a token Asian.

Don't believe me? Rewatch the film. You will learn at the end the film that their entire subplot was completely pointless. Disney's effort to include minorities is simply to send them on a meaningless task.
This post was edited on 7/4/18 at 1:37 am
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 1:33 am to
Someone, anyone explain to me why a fan of the OT should have an iota of respect for what they did to Luke Skywalker in this movie.

Abrams turning Han into a negligent, absent father/husband in TFA is a bit of a low blow but mostly in line with history of the character.

What RJ did to Luke is absolutely unforgivable. He lost his parents at birth, his caretakers as a teen, his mentor as soon as he learned his powers, his second mentor as soon as he was ready to complete his training, then his father all over again. So how is Luke rewarded for his on screen idealism and suffering? He forms a Jedi Academy (the one fricking thing every fan wanted to see) that is a catastrophic failure because *reasons* and he tries to murder his own family because *reasons* and all this happens off-screen and the info is only dumped on us at the tortured end of a tortured narrative because RJ wanted to knock fans down a few pegs and "subvert" expectations.
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 1:35 am to
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I liked it. Of course saying that omthis board will get you instant downvotes. Sure they’re are some bad scenes but overall it was good. 


I don't have a problem with any casual fan saying that it entertained them.

My problem is with Disney. This is Star Wars. Your goal has to be higher with this franchise than to just to entertain casual movie goers.

In the grand scheme of things, they left their most loyal fans dissapointed and angry and then have the nerve to blame them for not liking it.

In the end they are pushing their biggest most loyal fans away and are becoming more reliant off of a casual audience. This is a completely bizzaro strategy.
This post was edited on 7/4/18 at 1:39 am
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 1:37 am to
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the entire point of Finn and the Asian girl being in this movie if to be diverse and inclusive.


Opening of movie: Asian girl's sister dies in a bombing run, teaching us about sacrifice and how the Resistance must be willing to give themselves up to the larger goal.

End of movie: Asian girl stops Finn from doing the very thing her sister did because...well...
Posted by Sayre
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 1:45 am to
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I thought it was pretty damn entertaining.

Also didn't see the SJW shite everyone keeps bitching about. Maybe because I wasn't looking for it.


That was exactly my take. Just further enforces that the opinion on films of a lot of of this board is just people who think too highly of their opinions but really don't know what they're talking about.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
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Member since May 2004
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 1:59 am to
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Just further enforces that the opinion on films of a lot of of this board is just people who think too highly of their opinions but really don't know what they're talking about.


Him posting this thread does just that.

He instantly goes on the “muh SJW angry white men” narrative to reinforce his belief that this movie was good. Which is to say that if you didn’t like this, you are just an angry white man who hates women and minorities. None of the legit gripes that I mentioned were even debated upon, it’s just “well you just don’t know what you’re talking about.” Talk about thinking highly of ones opinion.
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
7728 posts
Posted on 7/4/18 at 2:00 am to
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a lot of of this board is just people who think too highly of their opinions but really don't know what they're talking about.





I find it hilarious that you are claiming a large group of people " don't know what they are talking about". That movie beat you over the head for 2.5 hours with empowering women and giving minorities meaningless sublpots, and you didn't pick up on it.

Nothing wrong with empowering women, but that's not what I go to see Star Wars for.

As for creating token minority roles, it's transparent. If I were black I would honestly feel insulted that Disney thought I was going to be proud of this lame Finn charachter.
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