re: The Wire

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Season 2 was tough for me to get through. Every episode I was praying that someone would knock off Ziggy.

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The Wire is the greatest television show ever conceived and implemented on screen.

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Except for maybe Breaking Bad

3,4,1,2,5

with that said, i'm not a huge fan of season 2 but it's all retaliative; it's still better than 90% of the shite on TV.


ep 10 in season 2 might be the best ep of the entire series.


really the only thing that makes season 2 not great is ziggy. he's that fricking bad. though i felt for him at the end no spoilers


I hate when people say "oh people don't like season 2 because it's not in the hood" no people don't like season 2 becuase of ziggy. that is literally the only reason. It deals with the fricking mob how can you not like that? Ziggy is THAT bad.

I'm still on season 3. I got hooked on season 1. Season 2 was very meh to me. They did a good job of keeping you updated on the goings on of the first season characters. That story picks up again in season 3 and is much more entertaining to me. Haven't had a lazy weekend in a while to binge watch, so I'm at a stand still. Overall its an entertaining show, but personally I dont consider it a GOAT show unless things happen in subsequent seasons that would change my mind.

I just finished watching the whole series, and like has been said before - season 2 may not be the most exciting gangster-wise, it is the most important because it details where the product comes from.
Every season has a new theme and they are all essential and fantastic.

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Is the second season as good as the first? Third season? Should I keep watching or move on to Game of Thrones or something...

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if you are having second thoughts then watch game of thrones, IMO.

I loved the wire, but if you didn't love season 1, then season 2 is gonna be tough for you to get through and you probably won't like seasons 3 and 4 as much as everyone else.

I honestly don't think the show is for everyone. I definitely loved it though.

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Yeah, he's pretty terrible. He's the like the jar jar binks of Baltimore.

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That is the perfect analogy.

I thought season 1 was fantastic. As good as any season of any show ever. Ziggy definitely made season 2 a chore to get through. Also it has the whole, getting the band back together feel to it that's a bit cliché. Season 3 was very good and got me back in. I liked season 4 as well. Season 5 felt like season 2 of Heroes to me, an obvious and painful decline in story.

If I was ranking the sesons: 1..3,4..2......5. As a whole, a great series, top 5 definitely. But if I had to pick a series to rewatch, I would pick Breaking Bad, The Sopranos, and Game of Thrones before The Wire.

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I hate when people say "oh people don't like season 2 because it's not in the hood" no people don't like season 2 becuase of ziggy. that is literally the only reason. It deals with the fricking mob how can you not like that? Ziggy is THAT bad.

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While i agree with you on the first part, saying people don't like season 2 becasue of Ziggy is just as bad. I admit watching season 2 the first time, i too was rooting for him to be taken out, but i came realize he was annoying for a reason. I don't "like" him, but that was kind of the point, he was an important character and no where near the utterly useless JarJar Binks.

As far as season 2, i put it this way, it is not as good as Season 1 (or 3 or 4) in the same sense that Charles Barkley isn't as good as Michael Jordan. It is still as you said better than 90% of shows that have been on TV, but still 4th of the 5 seasons of the Wire. My issue with it is that I think Simon is trying to hard to make his point. I won't get into spoliers, but I think he was beating us over the head with the main theme about the working class vs capitalism etc.

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The Wire is the greatest piece of art, media or literature ever conceived and implemented.

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Except Omar death.

I just opened up a whole shite can didn't I?

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I believe Breaking Bad to be the best TV drama created. Is The Wire really on that same level?

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I just finished season 2 of Breaking Bad, but, yes, The Wire is on that level.